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Discussion in 'On The Field' started by LonghornCatholic, Jun 1, 2017.

  1. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

     
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  2. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

    My morning read from the throne early this morning

     
  3. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    Damn, Mack has aged.
     
  4. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

    Eventually he was going to get another shot figured it would be a juco or something but nope it’s high school
     
  5. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    I bet Waco High starts to be a tough out.
    No need to go back over all his negatives, but the guy can truly coach football.


    edit.... I was also just imagining that Waco High School and Baylor may have to trade stadiums once the high school gets going and Baylor falls a little further.
     
  6. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Yeah, Waco will be a tough out, and the toughness is likely to increase equal to the number of players he encourages to use steroids, just like his last HS gig.
     
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  7. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Is it too late to open a print shop in McLennnan County specializing in fake birth certificates?
     
  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Not much suspense with this one, except wondering where aggy is

     
  9. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    This reminds me...An article recently came out listing top 10 UT quarterbacks of all time. Listed Street at 3, McCoy at 2, and VY at 1.
    I personally lean McCoy at 1 when looking at overall body of work. Would love to hear thoughts...
     
  10. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Bobby Layne (You said "all time")

    No denying VY was special in college and willed that team to win. Our first two Rose Bowls, and he owned both of them.

    I would put Street ahead of Colt
     
  11. rick mueller

    rick mueller Burnt Orange Bleeder

    Duke Carlisle has to be in the mix too. I'm not sure where though.
     
  12. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    I've watched a lot of football. VY was the best as far as I'm concerned. I was amazed by him and I just can't put put anyone else close to him. That Rose Bowl victory over USC was an incredible achievement if we are to believe the hype they laid on USC prior to the game. The USC players to a man admitted later he was unstoppable. I know Street did some great things but VY was on another level as far as I'm concerned.
     
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  13. rick mueller

    rick mueller Burnt Orange Bleeder

    Agreed. So many times we saw him do the seemingly impossible.
     
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  14. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    I think VY is on record as saying that he wishes he would have played his senior year. If he had he would have erased any and all doubt about who is the greatest college QB of all time...:bow:
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  15. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

  16. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    Carlisle and Street were very good for their time and they both delivered undefeated seasons and a natty. They both deserve a highly honored place among Longhorn QB's. But neither had to carry a team the way Vince and Colt did. And neither had skills to compare against Vince and Colt.
     
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  17. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Each of the four had a different skill set. All four never quit so they were equal in the most important "will to win" skill set. While he was a better than average passer, it was Vince's ability to run that set him apart. Colt was the best passer of the bunch. Carlie was the best tactician. Street was the best athlete and probably could have rivaled Colt as the best passer if he had run the same offense as Colt.
     
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  18. rick mueller

    rick mueller Burnt Orange Bleeder

    We have to remember also that Duke played both ways and delivered at least one game changing/saving interception at a HUUUGE moment. I'm not disagreeing that VY was the best ever. He was. VY was a game changer, but Duke was a game changer on both sides of the ball.
     
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  19. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    One of the hardest things to do in any type of sports analysis in my opinion is reconcile/compare players from different eras. Very difficult to do for a myriad of reasons. I'm glad a few of the "older" guys were brought up. Layne came in at #4 here.
    I have a feeling some would view McCoy vs VY differently if the '09 championship would have been delivered....which I believe it would have been....
     
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  20. Badass

    Badass 2,500+ Posts

    Excellent point my friend. VY ahtleticism versus Colt’s lethal accuracy if both had a natty would be legit debate. Wish we could have seen Colt healthy and VY senior year. Ifs and buts ...
     
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  21. rick mueller

    rick mueller Burnt Orange Bleeder

    Absolutely agree on all points.
     
  22. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    Street could throw the ball well enough. His 4th and 3 pass to Peschel was brilliant. And Street was nails under pressure. As I said, he belongs in an honored place because of what he accomplished. But, Street was not the passer that Colt was. Not even close. But he ran the wishbone to almost perfection, which is what we needed from him.

    I also greatly respect Carlisle. But if you watch the films of his games, you really can't compare him to the others. But he got the job done and deserves his place of honor.
     
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  23. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

    Anybody know what time Herman goes on for media day
     
  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    ... has some competition this season

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  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    10:40 am on FSW, I dunno about LHN

    Hagar called Todd Orlando halftime speeches "a national treasure"
     
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  26. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

    Did he miss anything
     
  27. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Thought about how this might have changed the history of UT sports in a dramatic way:
    VY comes back for his senior year behind a monster o-line a strong defense, Jamal Charles, Finley, and Sweed. They average around 60 points per game and blow through the schedule for a second MNC. McCoy gets quality snaps in relief, and might even get to run the offense a few times.
    Texas struggles in 2007, but comes back strong in 2008, beats Tech (because no way they lose that game twice) and play in Mack's third national championship in four years.
    Texas plays yet another NC in 2009. Mack retires. Hands the reins to Will Muschamp. No idea how he does, but we're all fat and happy for a season or so...
     
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  28. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

  29. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

     
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  30. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    I'll throw this in randomly in the random section (stole it from -gasp- Dallas Morning News):
    Here's a nugget: Since 2008, Mike Gundy has been under nine wins just twice and has not finished under .500.
    Bad hair, but not too shabby coaching job from out in the middle of the desert and competing in a tough conference.
     
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