2018 Senate (& House)

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  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Cruz offered to do 5

    Q: Should a white guy appropriating a Spanish-language nickname in a callus attempt to sway Hispanic voters be considered racist?
    A:
    Only if he is running as a Republican
     
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  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Florida-27 is up for grabs. Donna Shalala has never been popular outside entrenched Dem enclaves and apparently even those places have woken up to her.

    "The congressional seat was supposed to be the easiest of Democratic pickups. Hillary Clinton carried the Miami-based 27th District by nearly 20 percentage points just two years ago. Donna Shalala, the Democratic nominee, was a well-known, former Cabinet secretary with a talent for raising money.

    But now local Democrats are dismayed as Shalala is struggling to put away her Republican rival, a popular former Spanish-language television newswoman named Maria Elvira Salazar.

    According to internal polls from both campaigns obtained by POLITICO, Salazar is either ahead — or just narrowly trailing — Shalala....."

    Democrats fear Shalala campaign is in ‘sleep mode’ while challenger surges
     
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  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Just to note the record - Maria Elvira Salazar is smokin' hot, especially for being in her 50s.
     
  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    There have to be exceptions to the Pence Rule, otherwise what is the point of having a rule?

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  5. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Calling my shot: There will be a "Blue Wave" in the midterms but Cruz will prevail.
     
  6. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Of course Cruz will prevail. More of us Texans are smart enough not to vote for beta male socialist fruit loops, than there are imported California numb nuts skinny jeans types who will vote for one.
     
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  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Winning a Congressional election is no small feat

     
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  8. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Is he the one who asked a 4 star admiral if Guam would tip over?
    That right there is Shelia Jackson Lee territory.
     
  9. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I actually feel sorry for people like Johnson. If you have to care about stuff like that, it has to be exhausting - not because we shouldn't try not to offend. We should, but when the target is moving quickly, it's hard to keep track.

    Mrs. Deez is a special education teacher by trade, and early on in our marriage I used the term "retarded kid" in public. She looked around to make sure no one heard me and then told me that term is considered offensive in education circles. I asked her if she knew that "retarded" was actually a politically correct euphemism for other terms like "moron," "idiot," and "imbecile" which are still used in the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure and pointed out the irony that the euphemism is now offensive.

    I asked if I should call them "mentally disabled children." She said that was less offensive but still inappropriate because we never "lead with or define the person by the disability." I'll admit that this prompted an eye-roll from me. The appropriate term was "children with disabilities" (or something like that). Again, it's a moving target. They might even be onto some other term now.
     
  10. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    If you're a Beta fan, this isn't a good sign.
     
  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    How come no one wants to answer this question -- Is it racist for a white guy to appropriate a Hispanic first name to help him win elections? Indeed, for any purpose?
     
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  13. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Cassandra "Elvira" Peterson. It was worth sitting through her crappy movies just to see her.

    I saw her on the Tonight show many years ago. David Brenner was guest hosting. It was Halloween and Vincent Price was also a guest. She was hilarious. I think Vincent had to pogo stick his way off stage if you know what I mean (and I think you do).
     
  14. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Thin ice, Joe. Very thin ice. There's a reason why Cruz was on the ballot as Ted when he ran against Dewhurst. He wanted tot win. HeH didn't want to be the next Xavier Rodriguez (Texas Supreme Court), Felipe Reyna (Waco Court of Appeals), or Ernest Garcia (Austin Court of Appeals).
     
  15. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    IIRC He was never called Rafael. that is his father.
    He was called Felito until High school when he started to go by Ted which is of course a name many people named Edward use. He has gone by Ted ever since. With a last name like Cruz it would be difficult to fool gringos. Of course his mother is a pure gringo.
     
  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I get that, but that's basically Beto's justification.
     
  17. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Yes it is.
    And it might fool a few.
     
  18. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Deez, I don't recall Ted ever running away from his surname.
    I don't recall EVER seeing O'Rourke on any sign or campaign literature. Just Frito. Why would Frito be so ashamed of his family name?
     
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  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    He didn't run from it, but he wanted people to know that he was a Ted (a cultural white guy), not a Rafael (culturally less white-sounding).
     
  20. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    I don't think the name Ted is related to Anglos. I have known many Hispanic guys who were called Ted. I'll stipulate Ted sounds more "white" than Rafael.
     
  21. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    But that's the point. Cruz wasn't trying to falsify his ethnicity. Nobody cares about that. He was trying to signal his culture. I'm sure you've known some Hispanics named Ted. How many were illegal aliens? How many spoke primarily Spanish? Probably not many.

    Personally, I represented a ton of Hispanics who couldn't speak English and/or were illegal. Lots of Joses, Miguels, Juans, Robertos, Gonzalos, Julios, and Jorges. I don't recall any Teds. Lol. To be fair, I think there was a Teodoro.
     
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  22. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    I'm not sure Ted was signalling anything. I think he was using the name he grew up with.

    Beta, on the other hand, is false signalling like a mofo.
     
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  23. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    SN
    There is a pic around showing a 1st grade O'rourke wearing a beto shirt
    I would like to see his HS yearbook. We know he was Bob at Yale and in his band
     
  24. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Did you follow the judicial races I mentioned earlier? There's no way those weren't on Cruz's mind. (I worked on the Garcia race.)
     
  25. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Ted went by Ted in HS and through college, law school etc
    Actually by the time he ran in 2012 having a more Hispanic name would not have hurt him.
     
  26. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    In a Republican primary, yes it would. Again, ask X-Rod, Felipe Reyna, and Ernest Garcia.
     
  27. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Mr D
    I will look these people up. The only one I know is Felipe Reyna
    so you think he did not win reelection because he was hispanic?
     
  28. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Mostly, yes. There were special interest battles involving Reyna, but most voters knew nothing about those. People are thoroughly ignorant about judicial races, especially in rural areas.

    Texas Supreme Court justice Xavier Rodriguez was defeated by Steven Wayne Smith. Rodriguez had tons of money and broad support. SWS ran mostly on constitutional issues and his success in represent the plaintiffs in the Hopwood case but had no money to run a serious race. To 90 percent of Republican voters, he was completely unknown. He won anyway. Full disclosure - I have known both SWS and his campaign manager, David Rogers for 18 years. They are good people, and Smith was an outstanding Supreme Court justice. I voted for him every chance I got. However, being up against a guy named Xavier Rodriguez was the difference maker for him. SWS was challenged a couple of years later by Paul Green (white guy with a white name) and was defeated. He ran again in 2006 against Don Willett (another white guy with a white name) and was defeated.

    Ernest Garcia was appointed by Bush to fill a vacancy as a Travis County civil district judge. Local lawyers of all stripes thought he was a fair judge and respected him, but he lost in 2000 to Darlene Byrne, basically because he had a R by his name. In 2004, he ran in the GOP primary for the Austin Court of Appeals. At this point, not only did he have strong support from the legal community, he ran as an ideological conservative and had strong grassroots support and ran a solid, well-funded campaign. His opponent? Bill Green, who was a bike-riding liberal environmental activist from Austin with no money, no legal connections, and blatantly homosexual. Green defeated Garcia - not in liberal Travis County but in the rural counties, where a bunch of dumbasses saw the name Green and thought it was better than the name Garcia.

    Those races don't sound like a big deal, but in GOP insider circles, they caught a ton of attention and were analyzed to death. Ted Cruz unquestionably knew about them and campaigned accordingly.
     
  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Obama is out there campaigning for fellow leftists
    Things are getting a little testy
    But its the same old Barry -- Speaking for ~33-minutes, he said
    “I” 56 times + “Me” 5 times + “My” 4 times
    talking about himself a total of 64 times, or once about every 30 seconds.
    Some things never change

     
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  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I'm shocked, I'm stunned
    CNN caught red-handed doing some actual reporting

     
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