If Sam is out

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by HTownBevo, Oct 14, 2018.

  1. HTownBevo

    HTownBevo 250+ Posts

    The offensive game plan becomes pass setting up the run. Hopefully can get past OKie State with two weeks preparation....Add a third week to prepare and the offense becomes really interesting. Herb Hand OL will be key. Shane is not built to run downfield. Dont know much about Cameron Rising.

    And I thought he came out because his hand was bleeding.

     
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  2. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

     
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  3. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 2,500+ Posts

    Worry is over, but arm strength is going to be an issue for a couple weeks. Also his ability to grip the ball will be affected.
     
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  4. caryhorn

    caryhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Anwar Richardson said, "If all goes well, he will play against Oklahoma State on October 27."

    I don't think there is any chance Sam will be 100% by Oct 27. He may play, but his shoulder will not be fully, 100% healed. Maybe he will be at a level to lead the team to victory. Especially if the defense can hold osu to under 20.

    Shane is the best option we have off the bench. Neither freshmen could play well enough in their first ever college game to beat a tough team like osu.

    So if Shane has to play, then I hope TH tweaks the game plan a bit to fit Shane's strengths.
     
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  5. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    ...I don't wanna be in
     
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  6. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    And hopefully he doesn't think that means giving up on midrange passes and giving up on throwing to the middle of the field, like it did last week.
     
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  7. wadster

    wadster 5,000+ Posts

    Actually you don't know this. He might be 100%. Depends on the extent of the injury. If he's throwing by Friday/Saturday of this week he might be just fine. If he's not throwing until mid next week then he shouldn't even start.
     
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  8. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    James Brown & the OU defense say "hello"
     
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  9. caryhorn

    caryhorn 5,000+ Posts

    One Swallow doesn't make a summer. Sure, lightning in a bottle occurs, but I wouldn't bet on it; more importantly, TH sounds Ok with Shane as first up off the bench.
     
  10. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 2,500+ Posts

    If Sam can't go, I have faith in Shane that he could get the job done. However, I'm pretty sure the extra week will be enough for Sam to be ready, a Grade 1 sprain isn't that big a deal.

    When it comes to Shoulder injuries injuring the Rotator cuff or the Bursa sack is much much worse. A grade 1 sprain is a boo boo.
     
  11. caryhorn

    caryhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Hope you're right.
     
  12. GeoSteppen

    GeoSteppen 25+ Posts

    See who is starting in practice. If it's mostly Shane this week and next it should be Shane starting the game. Just depends on how bad the injury was.
     
  13. IvanDiabloHorn

    IvanDiabloHorn 1,000+ Posts

    No reason to let Okla St. know who is starting before kickoff.
     
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  14. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    I can't imagine coach not giving the ball to Shane.
    1 did you see how much coach values what Shane brings to the team?
    2 starting a true freshman requires them to completely change their scheme and pay calling. No one wants to go back to last year's offense.
     
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  15. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    My orthopedic surgeon friend said that the recommended "rest" for 99 percent of her Grade 1 AC sprains is a month. She said that the HS level (a year removed from Sam's age), the kids who ignore that month rest time period either lose a ton of strength/ability or they hurt it again. I asked if it was different for a QB versus other position players, and she said it was way worse for QBs and baseball pitchers.

    She said that in large university's example, they have so many resources/trainers, that if he pushed it too hard, they could rein him back in and do tons of treatment before/after each practice, but don't expect miracles. Obviously, she doesn't know or treat Sam or understand the extent of his injury, but I don't think it sounds promising.
     
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  16. The Eyes of Texas

    The Eyes of Texas 500+ Posts

    Don't base expectations for Shane on how he played last week. No work with the first unit in practice means timing with the wr's would not be nearly as good as it would be with a couple of weeks worth of reps in practice.
     
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  17. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    The Ehlinger/Rising playbook should be about the same so no change in the scheme. The entire OL and Ingram and Watson would have to be ruled out to "go back to last year's offense".

    Sam will not be completely healed by the OSU game. Ask any competent MD. Question do you jeopardize the entire season trying to beat a very beatable OSU?
     
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  18. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    Looked it up some info about the injury. "Most AC injuries don't require surgery. There are certain situations, however, in which surgery may be necessary. Most patients recover with full function of the shoulder. The period of disability and discomfort ranges from a few days to 12 weeks depending on the severity of the separation. Grade I - A slight displacement of the joint. The acromioclavicular ligament may be stretched or partially torn. This is the most common type of injury to the AC joint."
     
  19. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    DOOOOOOOMED!!!!!
     
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  20. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    i disagree that the playbook for a guy with 0 snaps would be the same as a guy with two offseasons and 12 starts.
     
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  21. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    No one seems to be considering WHERE we are playing. I personally hope they hold Sam out of this game. There is no room on the sideline or behind the endzone. I am not saying that Mike Gundy would allow dirty play from his team, but the last thing we need is Sam being run out of bounds and into that brick wall.

    :hookem2:
     
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  22. BabHorn

    BabHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Reading all the medical opinions of friends/literature presented here, it seems that it would beneficial to Sam, and by extension, to Texas, if Sam sat out the OU game. That would allow up to two weeks of treatment before he starts throwing and prepping for the next game.

    If a change of pace is needed for Shane in the OSU game, one of the frosh QBs can fill in. The good thing about that, as mentioned before, the frosh can play in up to four games and still retain their RS. This may be one such situation where playing them may be necessary.
     
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  23. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    It is a stupid stadium, agreed.
     
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  24. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    I posted early this week about my April 2017 incident on my mtn bike. I had a grade 1 sprain in my shoulder and it took me close to a month to get good mobility back. It was no boo boo. My wife would say I complain about injuries but that one hurt bad. So Horns 11's orthopedic surgeon friend and the one that gave me a diagnosis are saying the same thing. I think, again I am no doctor, that if Sam tried to start he would do more damage and it would affect him for a lot more time. HE NEEDS TO REST THE SHOULDER!!! I would hope he could start against WVU but he should be in street clothes for OSU!
     
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  25. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Medical opinions of no one who has actually examined Ehlinger.

    :hookem2:
     
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  26. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    Touché' HIC

    I just remember trying to throw a football with my daughter two or so weeks after the injury. It felt like being stabbed in the shoulder. Maybe mine was a lot worse than Sam's.
     
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  27. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    He may need the two weeks. Hope the staff follows all medical advice and realistically evaluates him. Short term bench could be the best long term benefit.
     
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  28. BabHorn

    BabHorn 10,000+ Posts

    As mentioned by everyone that posted.
     
  29. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Oops, my mistake. Didn't read back through. Just being a wise guy.
     
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  30. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    LOL nothing like a bye week and an injury to turn us into a board full of orthopedic surgeons and diagnosticians.
     
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