The Media Industry

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  1. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    It just keeps going on and on> Will Husker try to say Conservatives are making too big a deal out of this? Or maybe that the poor gay latino did not deserve wine in his face? Or maybe since Tucker is a public figure it is ok?
    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...of-assault-called-my-daughter-a-*****-inbox-x
    "On October 13, I had dinner with two of my children and some family friends at the Farmington Country Club in Charlottesville, Virginia," Carlson said. "Toward the end of the meal, my 19-year-old daughter went to the bathroom with a friend. On their way back through the bar, a middle aged man stopped my daughter and asked if she was sitting with Tucker Carlson. My daughter had never seen the man before. She answered: ‘That’s my dad,’ and pointed to me. The man responded, ‘Are you Tucker’s *****?’ He then called her a ‘f*** c***.’ "

    "My daughter returned to the table in tears," the statement continues. "She soon left the table and the club. My son, who is also a student, went into the bar to confront the man. I followed. My son asked the man if he’d called his sister a ‘*****’ and a ‘c**t.’ The man admitted he had, and again become profane. My son threw a glass of red wine in the man’s face and told him to leave the bar, which he soon did."
     
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    They just makin it up

     
  3. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    We are witnessing the death of traditional journalism. They are big and powerful and regular people like us can't hold them accountable. The only traditional competition is Fox News and talk radio. However, those in power try to remove them from the market or further diminish their message like with the Fairness Doctrine.
     
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  4. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    CNN suing Trump administration over Jim Acosta's Press credentials:

    CNN Sues Trump Administration Over Jim Acosta Press Credentials

    When did the 1st amendment guarantee access of certain media members to the President? The Feds certainly cannot suppress the press from reporting whatever they choose, but nowhere is access to elected officials guaranteed. I actually never understood why Republican Presidents didn't ban more of the biased MSM from their press conferences. Helen Thomas should have had her credentials revoked long before she was finally discredited. The entitlement of liberal journalists is amazing.
     
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  5. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    I've called it the "Comical" for years because I see it as a joke. Who reads it anymore? Since the advent of the smartphone, I rarely see people with newspapers. Used to be there were newspapers found in every waiting room and many restaurants provided a newspaper for patrons. Rarely see them anymore.
     
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  6. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    They are obsolete and you can find bloggers that more specially focused on the issue(s) you are interested in and have more integrity.
     
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  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I have been wondering what might happen with Fox News now that Disney has its claws in the rest of Fox. The last I read, they were going to spin off Fox News/Fox Business into its own separate tradeable entity. But I doubt most viewers would ever trust Disney with Fox News as long as they kept a majority stake. But what then?

    Maybe this? I have only seen OAN maybe 5 or 6 times total and it seems a much leaner and lower budget production. But the good news is no Shepherd Smith's running around grinning all the time about his big contract renewal either. Anyone else seen OAN?

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  8. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    My cable provider does carry One America News Network. I've seen it a few times. I probably need to check out their internet site because I get most of my news online.
     
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  9. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    I thought this was interesting. Carl Bernstein calling for the media to edit the President's news conferences because they're propaganda. He wants the media to filter our news for us even more than they do now. Boy has he fallen far from the true faith.


    Carl Bernstein suggests media should edit White House pressers before airing them
     
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  10. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    It is the usual stipulation: Liberals are honest, intelligent people. We are never to be questioned. We know better.

    And when they assert it with power then THAT is the real problem.
     
  11. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Trump is taking it on the chin for questioning how long it took to kill bin Laden. It is my recollection (and I know this for a fact because I spent years on a Liberal chat room as a regular contributor) that the Left mocked Bush for not killing bin Laden. They used it as evidence of incompetence. THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. It really makes me sick to hear the revisionism going on.
     
  12. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    What's really remarkable isn't that he says the Administration lies or that it puts out propaganda. Of course they do from time to time. What remarkable is that they spent 8 years pretending their preferred Administration didn't lie or put out propaganda.
     
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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  14. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    The key to this quote is the phrase "they have become". It is a true statement but the event it refers to happened in the 18th century.
     
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  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I was thinking the WH itself should cut off the video feed. Without live TV, performance artists like Jim Acosta would lack a stage. Still have the pressers, just no TVs. No cameras = no clowns. Nobody likes clowns anyway.
     
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  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    This is why Barry Goldwater opposed C-SPAN.
     
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    A quick demonstration in US media objectivity

     
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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  20. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    That's confusing - where is tv/internet media? Are they lumped in with Hollywood?
     
  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Nate the Skate does not understand how or why conservative content continues to do so well on social media. He think the problem lies with Facebook. He thinks there must be something wrong with people who do not agree with his ideology. His solution, echoing that of most liberals these days, is for FB to remove or censor Ben Shapiro, et al.

    Is this guy smart enough to be trusted with national polling?

     
  22. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Facebook is purging pages by the thousands. Most of them libertarian or right leaning. If Nate doesn't think they are trying, I would hate to see them trying.
     
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  23. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    OK this is a perfect example of media bias. I haven't been following the Mississippi election that closely, but Hyde-Smith won despite a couple of comments about attending a public hanging (basically saying that she thought enough of someone that she'd come to whatever event he invited her to come - probably not the best choice of events) and "voter suppression" (referring to joking about making it harder for college students to vote while talking to students at a college and possibly poking fun at their rival school). Clearly a couple of off-the-cuff remarks that she shouldn't have made, but likely weren't that big a deal.

    So how does the Yahoo feed of the HuffPo article covering her election win?

    "Cindy Hyde-Smith's Response To Whether She Regrets Racist Comments: 'I'm A Cowgirl'

    The top story of the night: "Mississippi Senate incumbent Cindy Hyde-Smith (R) didn’t use the opportunity of an election win to express regret for making highly controversial statements throughout her campaign, instead saying that she’s a cowgirl who likes western movies."

    Except that in the very next graph...

    When asked whether she regretted any of the racist remarks about public hangings and voter suppression, she said that she’s apologized and wants to move forward, then offered the following explanation:

    “I’m a cowgirl and when a cowgirl references western movies that I’ve seen hundreds of, and somebody twists it, that’s just it, you’ve gotta roll with the punches.”

    Notice what they did there. The point that she has apologized is ignored. But the article claims she doesn't express regret.

    Then... the "I'm a cowgirl" comment is portrayed as her response to why she said what she said. The implication is "cowgirls say racist stuff all the time!" When actually she's just saying that she used an analogy that she's seen in movies while growing up.

    You can argue whether she should have said those things or whether she's a good pick or not. But this thing where we use "six degrees of separation" logic to tie everything to racism is on full display here.
     
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  24. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Just more evidence that MSM and current social media platforms need to be competed out of the market. Secede from as much of it as you can. Find alternative platforms. Admittedly, they don't function as well as Facebook/Twitter, but something has to give.
     
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  25. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

  26. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    It will not surprise me if some of the purging quickly finds its way into the various shareholder litigation pleadings being bounced around the federal courts. The purging is inconsistent with the claims Twitter, et al include in the annual reports about their business model. And since they ARE publicly traded companies, that places a different standard upon them for consistency than if Twitter and Facebook were privately held operations...
     
  27. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    You don't even have to get past the headline to see the bias. It presumes that her comment was racist. I do think it was a dumb thing to say, but the idea that it's beyond debate that it was racist is laughable.
     
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  28. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I'd never heard of her either until a couple days ago. She seems a little nutty, but this reminds me of the Alex Jones ban (except she's hot). Banning them gives them far more credibility than just letting them talk.

    And of course, the idea that social media is politically neutral is absurd. Even Zuckerberg admits that Facebook is biased. It actually makes me respect him more.
     
  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Explains alot

     
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Moonves will get away with it
    Because of ... well you know why

     

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