Comey and Mueller

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Musburger1, Jun 9, 2017.

  1. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The Huber part of all of this may start becoming more public starting Monday

    We havent heard much about what Huber and the other USAs have been doing because, unlike Team Mueller, Team Huber does not leak. Which is a good thing.

    Part of it appears to be related to Comey, something he is aware of and which would explain his nervous squirming over the Congressional subpoena.
     
  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    What he may be after with this is that -- if his testimony were public -- he could routinely claim, "I like to tell you but unfortunately that is classified."

    He cannot use that excuse in refusing to answer questions under oath in a closed door hearing. It looks like he knows he is in real danger of perjury charges, perhaps more.
     
  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    One conclusion that is certain from the Flynn matter is that someone from inside the Obama admin leaked the contents of Flynn’s intercepted communications to the WAPO/David Ignatius on Jan 12, 2107.
    This was a felony.
    This felony leak was used to kickstart the "Logan Act" narrative which was pushed by Sally Yates to go after Flynn.

    Who was the leaker?

     
  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Will this be the scene in the US if they impeach Trump?
    Even worse?

     
  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  9. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Do any of the lawyers onboard here think Trump broke campaign law with his payoffs to Stormy? If so, will there be any punishment worse than a fine?
     
  10. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I read that Mueller thinks Trump was aware of the meeting in the Trump Tower. If so, the impeachment will come quickly.
     
  11. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Last edited: Dec 9, 2018
  12. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    And yet it will go on
    and on
    and on
     
  13. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Of course. Nothing will change.
     
  14. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  16. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Media Conventional Wisdom On Russia Probe Is Uninformed And Idiotic

    "Axios promised highly damning and highly detailed evidence in the Mueller probe. What it instead delivered was warmed-over D.C. conventional wisdom, dramatically overwrought and imprecise allegations, and a notable lack of any evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election. A typical beltway reader may come away from the article feeling comforted about where the investigation is headed. But it’s hard to argue that anyone who read all 460 words of VandeHei’s bombshell was any more informed than when he began."
     
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  17. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Axios got bills to pay and concerned progressives got some money to pay for hope.
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    When Peter Strzok "interviewed" Hillary, she had 9 lawyers with her in the room.

    When Strzok interviewed Flynn, he had no attorney present And Flynn was not even informed that it was a formal FBI interview.

     
  19. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

    The Government failed to inform General Flynn that it is illegal to lie to the FBI. #entrapment
     
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  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Here is the timeline on the write-up (302) of the Flynn interview

    Jan 24, 2017, FBI agents Peter Strzok and Joe Pientka interviewed Flynn.

    Aug 2, 2017, Rosenstein issued new instructions to Mueller.

    Aug 16, 2017, ABC News reported Peter Strzok had been fired by Mueller.

    Aug 22, 2017, the FBI 302 on Flynn was written.
     
  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    If the Govt fails to inform someone within their custody of their legal rights, then any subsequent admission or confession is inadmissible as evidence. Not only that, but any other evidence obtained pursuant to that person's admission/confession would likewise be inadmissible as fruit of the poisonous tree.
     
  22. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

    Fruit of the poisonous tree. That's fun to say.
     
  23. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    They also told him that he shouldn't bring a lawyer. Gee, I wonder why.
     
  24. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

    Well I think we all learned something here today. Don't talk to Russian spies. And if you do, and the FBI comes knocking, whatever you do, do not lie to the US Government. Unless your attorney is present to remind you not to tell lies to the US Government.
     
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  25. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    You don't know a lot about the criminal justice process in this country, do you? I also suspect that you've never once been involved in a casual conversation where you were willing to make a general statement or one that you hadn't zealously vetted, pondered, edited, and crafted to ensure that it was 100 percent correct with no possibility of misinterpretation, oversimplification, omission, or mistake.
     
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  26. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

    Correct. I have never had a casual conversation with a Russian spy and then had the Government ask me about that specific conversation. And then lied.
     
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  27. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    How do we know you're being truthful here, Longest?
     
  28. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    No but I'd bet that you just lied under the circumstances I just described.
     
  29. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

    I frankly don't understand where all this hate for law enforcement is rooted.
     
  30. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Me: You can't bring a guy in for questioning in a crime by telling him he doesn't need his lawyer, and we're all on the same side and don't really suspect that you did anything, so don't worry about it. It's deceptive and violates his civil rights.

    You: Why do you hate law and order?
     
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