2019 Recruiting - Football

Discussion in 'Recruiting' started by Badass, Jun 8, 2017.

  1. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Those of us who suffered through the Ron Morris circus wanted to send you a greeting. I think that might have been the first time my recruiting desire became disgust.
     
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I was around for that. I used to have a T-shirt that was SMU colors with their pony upside down, with dead eyes. Some Austin frat produced it in house. I loved that shirt. But I dont see what I wrote as contrary to any of that.
     
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  3. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    ^^^^
    I had the same shirt.
     
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  4. Horn87

    Horn87 1,000+ Posts

    there was also a bumper sticker of the above with the caption reading "Undefeeted":smile1:
     
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  5. horn_fan_cpa

    horn_fan_cpa 100+ Posts

    I think Whittington is a pretty darn good player in his own right. I think it's "almost" too bad that we have two guys with extremely similar skill sets and skill levels coming in the same class. As I've said before, good problem to have, but it's going to be interesting to find enough footballs to go around.
     
  6. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Gbenda punches well above his weight class.

    You've got to like these fast, quick, undersized guys that still (despite their relatively smallish size) hit like sledgehammers. You can put BJ Foster into that category.
     
  7. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Well, Gatorade seems to think that Jake Smith is the best player in the nation at any position...

    Past Gatorade National POYs include Jeff George, Emmitt Smith, Peyton Manning, Tim Couch, Chris Lewis, Garrett Gilbert (oops...), and Kyler Murray.

    Who's to say a sugary sports drink maker doesn't know recruits better than the folks at Rivals or other self-appointed gurus.
     
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    From TFB --

    " am told that Texas is going after Tennessee grad transfer starting OT, Drew Richmond.

    Last Friday, I spoke with a source in the building about Richmond and was told that the Vols planned on letting Richmond go. However, same source let me know, yesterday, that they have decided to work to keep him.

    The initial sense I got was the Vols believed they had younger guys who would unseat Richmond. At some point between last Friday and yesterday, they obviously decided that they can’t afford to lose him...."
     
  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The final ESPN 300
    ESPN Football Recruiting - 300 Player Rankings

    1. Kayvon Thibodeaux
    3. Kenyon Green
    6. Jadon Haselwood
    16. Trey Sanders
    17. Garrett Wilson
    27. Bru McCoy
    29. Spencer Rattler
    32. Tyler Johnson
    33. Theo Wease
    35. Lewis Cine
    37. Jeffery Carter
    40. Jordan Whittington
    55. De'Gabriel Floyd
    56. Kardell Thomas
    60. DeMarvin Leal
    69. Noah Cain
    76. Jake Smith
    83. Kenyatta Watson
    97. Dylan Wright
    99. Erick Young
    104. Roschon Johnson
    112. Elijah Higgins
    125. David Gbenda
    130. Marcus Washington
    152. Branson Bragg
    181. Deondrick Glass
    190. Derrian Brown
    233. Peyton Powell
    243. Marcus Tillman
    283. Brayden Liebrock
    289. Chris Adimora
     
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  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Texas signee movement in the last ESPN 300^

    Tyler Johnson (-16)
    Jordan Whittington (-1)
    De'Gabriel Floyd (+2)
    Jake Smith (-1)
    Kenyatta Watson (+6)
    Roschon Johnson (-18)
    David Gbenda (+75)
    Marcus Washington (+41)
    Derrian Brown (+3)
    Marcus Tillman (+4)
    Brayden Liebrock (+4)
    Chris Adimora (unranked to 287)

    Also, no Tyler Owens somehow
    -Catalon fell out of the rankings completely
    -Demariyon Houston fell out of the rankings
    -NaNa Osafo-Mensah fell 95 spots
    -Higgins jumped up nearly 40 spots
     
  11. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    It's kind of odd, mathematically, that having 12 out of the top 300 players, and none higher than 32, can be a top-10 class.
     
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  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    We are supposed to be making a push for 2019 OT Ira Henry, from the same St Louis school as Washington and Cooper. We had an in-home with him yesterday. OV was probably set then

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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Whittington senior film (cant rmbr if i already posted it)

     
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  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Good long IT/Eric Nahlin article on what Roschon Johnson brings to the table, if you like this sort of thing

    "THE IMPORTANCE OF FIT
    I often use the benefit of knowing where a player is going when doing rankings. If you’re a press corner and can’t play off, don’t go to a zone team. If you’re a dual-threat quarterback, don’t go to a traditional pro-passing offense. Etc.

    You’d be hard pressed to find a better marriage of talent and fit than between Texas and Roschon Johnson. Herman knows it and Johnson know it.

    Most everyone else does too, but it came into clear resolution as I attended a coaches clinic in which Faircloth discussed his offense.

    Here’s a quick breakdown of how PN-G’s offense is hard-wired:

    - Identity: Play fast, play physical, protect the football
    – West Coast philosophy: high percentage passing (quick screens/quick passes); QB progression/3-step drop
    – Downhill run game: Power, counter, iso, Buck Sweep
    – Multiple personnel groups and formations with balanced 50/50 run/pass split.
    – Lots of shifting and motioning to hide intentions but still keep things simple for the offensive line.
    – RPO’s and RRO’s (inside run, outside run, option)
    – Won’t run what’s on your scout card.
    – Sequential Football: For every motion and every shift there is a run, pass, draw, screen, reverse, and trick in the quiver. After a run or pass is used in a game they build off of it. Everything is a setup. Build stuff off of stuff.
    The comparison between Johnson and Heard (or any run-first dual) really breaks down at this point. Heard was more ZR, ZR, ZR, play action over the top. Johnson has considerably more on his plate and he understands it at a very high level. I could underline this point further but don’t want to reveal some things that might help PN-G’s opponents......"
    A complete view of Texas quarterback commit Roschon Johnson - Inside Texas
     
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  15. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Good. We need at least one more quality OL this year, and who knows what Shephard will do on signing day.
     
  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Some more Eric Nahlin on a couple of the new offensive players --

    RB Derrian Brown, Buford (Buford, GA) - 5-11, 190 (.9129)
    The Player: A slick, slashing runner with excellent hands out of the back-field. I think he has the vision and feel for inside zone, not to mention the ability to get through creases quickly, while also being a good off-tackle runner. Keep those hands in mind as Herman and Tim Beck found throwing to the position increasingly useful over the course of the season.
    The Projection: He'll play at 205 pounds and because he's not easy to hit square, he can log volume carries if needed, and also play early. As we learned with Ingram, Herman isn't going to rush a young running back into a big role, rather he'll give the player more snaps as he earns them over time. Reliability must be proven, but with how thin the position is opportunity awaits Brown upon arrival. With a well-rounded skill-set, as well as time spent playing big-time ball in Georgia, Brown shouldn't need too much time to acclimate to college.

    Your 2019 Offensive Class (So Far) - Inside Texas

    ATH/WR Jordan Whittington, Cuero (Cuero, TX) - 6-1, 205 (.9734)
    The Player: Funny enough, he'd be a five-star if he elected to play safety as he profiles to 'Brandon Jones with ball skills.' As a receiver he's still a fantastic prospect thanks to quickness and ability to get open on the ground or attack the ball in the air above it. He profiles to any receiver position thanks to his versatility, but was recruited to play H (slot). Don't rule out X where he can out-muscle defensive backs and win 50/50 balls, or Z where he can run by them or over them in the screen game. His best traits are his combination of quickness and strength. That's where things get interesting, because of his build he will likely see time at running back as well. He's just as much a Swiss Army knife as Jake Smith, just not quite as Swiss looking.
    The Projection: Another early enrollee, expect Whittington to play a lot of snaps as a freshman, especially with Lil'Jordan Humphrey electing to forego his senior season and the lack of depth and play-making ability at running back. With one player Texas will strengthen two position groupings. It's hard to project where he'll have his greatest impact as a junior because he's so versatile he can play wherever he's most needed. The good news is he's such a natural player he should excel wherever they put him.
     
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  17. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

     
  18. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Nice article.

    There are different philosophies on this, but for the college game, I'm in the dual-threat QB is usually the best camp. RJ is clearly in the ultra-quick sort of dual-threat QB (as opposed to the power runner sort of dual-threat QB like Sam or Tebow), but either can work well. And I mean ultra-quick, see his all star game film.

    Something else that really stood out from the article is RJ's coach's remarks about RJ's very strong work ethic. He sounds like the sort of guy that will take care of business, work out on his own, and watch a whole lot of film of the upcoming opponent on his own free time.
     
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  19. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    4.0 GPA according to Sabre
     
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  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    IT is very high on him, but some people say he needs to re-work his throwing motion, that his mechanics are inconsistent which affects his accuracy. If true, he should have plenty of time to work it out.
     
  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Here are Rivals 250 updated
    2019 Rivals250 Prospect Ranking
    Owens with big bump, Smith, Liebrock + MWashington with nice bumps, TJohnson -15 spots. Gbenda and Hoofin first time on this list (I think)

    1. Derek Stingley
    3. Trey Sanders
    4. Jadon Haselwood
    10. DeMarvin Leal
    11. Theo Wease
    12. Bru McCoy
    13. Spencer Rattler
    18. Marcel Brooks
    19. Chris Steele
    22. Kenyon Green
    26. Kardell Thomas
    30. Erick Young
    32. Garrett Wilson
    33. Jordan Whittington
    43. Noah Cain
    48. Jake Smith
    53. Marcus Banks
    54. Lewis Cine
    62. Tyler Owens
    77. Brayden Liebrock
    88. Dylan Wright
    97. Tyler Johnson
    105. Marcus Washington
    109. Demani Richardson
    112. Kenyatta Watson
    119. Elijah Higgins
    123. De'Gabriel Floyd
    154. Chris Adimora
    169. Isaiah Hookfin
    210. Branson Bragg
    212. Kenyon Jackson
    219. David Gbenda
    236. Peyton Powell
    238. Derrian Brown
    243. Jalen Catalon
    250. Deondrick Glass
     
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  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Here is another one of Nahlin's write-ups. They whole list is well done, but I thought Wiley's stood out a bit since he is someone who is not discussed that often -- (link above)

    TE Jared Wiley, Temple (Temple, TX) - 6-6, 230 (.8546)
    The Recruitment: Wiley was offered during the spring evaluation period at a time when not much was known about him. He had a quiet, drama free recruitment and wasted little time with his decision, committing in May.
    The Player: Here's where it gets interesting. The more homework I did on Wiley the more apparent it became he was a steal. Obviously he had great size, but he also hit 8 home runs and hit for a high average in baseball. He was set to play quarterback for his storied high school (which he also played at a high level). With baseball comes good hand-eye coordination, processing, and reactions. With playing quarterback comes an understanding of where to run your routes versus differing defenses. It gives you a certain field vision you might not have otherwise. Now roll these unique traits into a giant, easy moving tight end. to top it off, I hear he has good hands and is highly competitive. He may end up being the steal of the class.
    The Projection: If he's as competitive as I think he is he'll become a good blocker in time. Like with Liebrock, that's an unknown as he gets set to begin his career but obviously the staff has no concerns. Wiley running down seams isn't going to be fair for defenses worried about the other skill talent around him. While Liebrock gets most of the press, Wiley has some very unique traits that make it likely he makes a farce out of his rating. Enrolling early will give him a jump on working towards that end. Texas has questions at tight end heading into next year. Wiley will be a quick responder to S&C. While I think he'll red-shirt, playing next year isn't out of the question. After a year in the program he should become a solid contributor at a minimum.
     
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  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Some more on potential grad transfer OT Drew Richmond from Tenn

    Tennessee OL Drew Richmond is in the transfer portal but is an interesting situation in the sense that he would technically be a grad transfer. As y'all have figured out, Richmond is on the Texas radar. I'm actually told that Herb Hand is slated to see him this week. Look for interest with Richmond to ramp up after Hand makes his stop as Texas continues to look for immediate OL help-- EJ Holland of 247
     
  24. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Apparently Craig Naivar, our safeties coach, is going to be at Jalen Catalon's (4-star safety from Mansfield) high school tomorrow for his commitment announcement.

    Also, Bryan Carrington is sending our cryptic tweets like it's "1:38 pm", which he does before we get a commitment.

    Keep your fingers crossed.
     
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  25. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    I did not read the full article on Roschon, but he does indeed have a 4.0 GPA. As for his strong work ethic, he arrives at the field house before 6 AM every morning to do his running and workouts before school.

    It is my understanding from friends still living in MidCounty that Fairloth doesn't call the plays, but rather sends in suggestions from which RJ chooses at the LOS. I've never been completely clear on RJ's ability to select a different play at the LOS.
     
  26. rick mueller

    rick mueller Burnt Orange Bleeder

    If Shepherd does sign with us, I'm not sure how much to expect out of him. Too much attention seeking behavior here for comfort. I hope he signs with us and proves me wrong, wrong, wrong.
    So getting a quality JUCO in the house would be a good move.
     
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  27. rick mueller

    rick mueller Burnt Orange Bleeder

    Impressive indeed. He sounds like a coach's dream. As has been suggested elsewhere, maybe RJ's persona is affecting Rising's thinking.
     
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  28. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

  29. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Who can tell how this one will turn out in the end? All the more reason to press hard on remaining quality OL targets (HS, JC, and Transfer). Hand can work magic in developing a line, but the building blocks have to be in place. We were fortunate to have a mostly healthy OL this year. Unfortunately, the odds are that won't always be the case. Gotta get that quality OL depth for now and for the future.
     
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    That last Rivals updated player ranking is now part of the composite team rankings and it bumped us up to #7 in the overall 247 team composite. Also, Texas is 91.19 for the avg per player rating (which pushed us ahead of aggy who is at 91.07)

    poor aggy
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