What will it take for Shaka to survive this year?

Discussion in 'Men’s Basketball' started by horn by commitee, Jan 12, 2019.

  1. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    Like picking at a sore that won't heal, but the current wrapping up of football recruiting took me to looking at basketball in the Barnes at DayGlo v Smart at Texas recruiting, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 (in progress).

    Couldn't get Rivals to show the first 3 years, so I went to ESPN's rankings:

    Recruiting season --- Smart/class rank-Tex; Barnes/class rank-Tenn
    2016 --- 11th; lower than 40th
    2017 --- 6th; lower than 40th
    2018 --- 8th; lower than 40th
    2019 -- 12th; 21st (again, not on the court yet, in progress)

    Currently Tennessee as a team is ranked No. 1 in the nation.

    Texas is as team is not even "also receiving votes."
     
    • Like Like x 1
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    When things are bad, it always good to be able to laugh at someone else

     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  3. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    Cuz Brandy Perryman.
     
  4. Walking Boss

    Walking Boss 2,500+ Posts

    After the next two games which are both probable losses KU @ home and at Iowa state Smart will be 11-11 this year and battling for 9th in the conference. The players have shown no real improvement (other than possibly free throw shooting) but why should improvement be expected from them, apparently no improvement is expected from their Coach. Smart survives this year just because he does, merit and results don’t matter.
     
  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Kind of reminded me of this series

    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  7. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    I think to CDC results do matter. I believe if Smart makes it past this year its because CDC has been hamstrung by the financial situation and administration. I also believe when we get closer to the end of the contract we may see more serious talk about change. If SS somehow has a good season next year I doubt there will be serious extension talks. Considering the departures at the end of this season we are probably yet to see the worst basketball in the Smart era.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  8. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    Someone once said the opposite of love isn't hate --- it's indifference. Maybe some truth to that. I think loss of love can go through two stages --- first, a feeling of hatred where there was once love, then second the loss of that hatred to an indifference of passion either way.

    I think Shaka is very, very close if not past the point of Longhorn basketball fans losing their anger at him for his poor record, slipping now into indifference.

    I know for me, yesterday at home it was like: "Oh yeah, it's Big 12 v SEC and the Horns get a chance to pop that ugly UGA dog in the schnauzer, with a kind of pause, and then, okay, I guess I'll tune in. Wait, I knew I was going to trim my fingernails and toenails today. Let me go do that first. Oh, and I've got some old No.2 pencils I've been meaning to sharpen."
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  10. beijinghorn1

    beijinghorn1 500+ Posts

    Wonder if he learned from his IU days...
     
  11. caryhorn

    caryhorn 5,000+ Posts

    The horns will not finish above .500 this year. SS will get one more year, the heat will be burning hot next year; and Smart will guide the team to something like 16-15.


    CDC will let him go; there will be a new coach.
     
  12. SAMMCHornfan

    SAMMCHornfan 250+ Posts

    Or we could end up living the John Mackovic saga all over again. What if they keep him around for another year and the team gets hot and ends up going to the Sweet 16 or farther. Then he would definitely have to come back. I would just cut our losses after this year if nothing improves. And yes I didn’t like the way Rick went out, but I was a fan of the Shaka hire.
     
  13. caryhorn

    caryhorn 5,000+ Posts

    It ^^^ could happen. But I can't imagine Shaka being able to get this team that deep into the tourney.

    I was a fan of the SS hire also. It's deeply disappointing to see how poorly they are coached and how utterly confused and undisciplined they can look at times.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    If Shaka makes the Sweet 16 with this team maybe UCLA will steal him away from Austin.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  15. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Shaka doesn't have that moron Willie Cunningham around to give him a raise and extension for having one "almost" year out of five.
     
  16. SAMMCHornfan

    SAMMCHornfan 250+ Posts

    Reminds me of the Goestenkors hire for the women. I was excited about that hire too.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  18. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Difference is Shaka had a moderate amount of success at a mid-major, while Gail G had a large amount of success at a top-tier program. 7-time ACC Coach of the Year, national COY in 2007, 3 undefeated conference seasons, won 80% of her games, and had 10 straight sweet-16s that included 7 elite-8s, 4 final-4s, and 2 runner-up finishes. Even accounting for the women's side being more top-heavy than the men's, that's way more than he accomplished. She was clearly qualified for the job and there was every reason to think she'd have similar success here. I didn't think Shaka was a bad hire, but there was a lot less "holy crap this guy has been a really good coach" data on him.
     
  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    If this is how it worked, would this be a job saver?

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Horn87

    Horn87 1,000+ Posts

    Joe Lunardi has Texas as a #9 seed thus far
     
  21. FWHORN

    FWHORN 10,000+ Posts

    I think tonight against K-State will give us defining moment one way or other on how this season ends up.

    Update: Yeah, last night was just painful to watch as most of this season has been, bad decisions, bad passes, shot clock violations and yet another loss that could/should have been a win. This team could easily be 19-6 or better but they just cant get out of their own way and that's on the coaches.
     
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2019
  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Latest bracketology
    Lunardi dropped us a bit -- No. 9 seed in the Midwest region.
    He still has 8 of 10 Big 12 teams in the field of 68

    [​IMG]
     
  23. caryhorn

    caryhorn 5,000+ Posts

    I hope we don't play Syracuse in the opening round. 'Cuse is the best team in the country at running the zone defense. Zone defense has been kryptonite killing the Horns all season.
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2019
  24. Horn87

    Horn87 1,000+ Posts

    sorry, caryhorn but anyone from my kids Upward league is running any zone D that could defend again Shaka's O...
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  25. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    I'm stunned. I didn't know Shaka had an O
     
    • Like Like x 1
  26. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    It is his secret weapon that he is waiting for the "perfect time" to deploy.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  27. caryhorn

    caryhorn 5,000+ Posts

    ^^^Well, in that case I hope we don't play that Upward League team! :)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  28. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    I doubt that team would have lost to Radford
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  29. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    Just for shits and giggles I went to TexasSports.com, the official website of UT Athletics and recorded the most recent national rankings of the 15 sports covered there:

    Baseball, No. 23
    Basketball: Men, NR
    Basketball: Women, No. 9
    Football, No. 9
    Golf: Men, No. 12
    Golf: Women, No. 3
    Rowing, No. 3
    Soccer, No. 17
    Softball, No. 11
    Swimming and Diving: Men, No. 2
    Swimming and Diving: Women, No. 1
    Tennis: Men, No. 3
    Tennis: Women, No. 6
    Track and Field/Cross Country, No. 25
    Vollyball, No. 5

    If you're CDC, as any good CEO should do, you'd take note of where efforts of your organization are needed.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2019
  30. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Softball is 11 with a bullet. Those ladies seem to be on a mission.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1

Share This Page