Dumb Political Correctness

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Mr. Deez, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    People like this do not admit error and/or apologize
    They just delete their tweets

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  2. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    "It's just this war and that lying son-of-a-***** Johnson!"
     
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  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Do not let these people win elections at any level

     
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  4. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    :puke:
     
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  5. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    More likely a backlash. These kids will be fine.
     
  6. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I hope so, but they're pretty feminine boys.
     
  7. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Wait till puberty kicks in. The real person comes out.
     
  8. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Yep. Let's see what happens when the horndog stage kicks in. :p
     
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  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I suspect the only reason Twitter has not banned her yet is because they can't figure out if she/it/he/they is on their side or not. Once they do, she/it/he/they will be disappeared

     
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  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  11. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    He has an untreated TDS problem.
     
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  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  13. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Charles Barkley is the best.

     
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  14. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Jussie Smollett claims he has an untreated drug problem

    We knew that was coming.
     
  15. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Yep, he can't just say, "I'm a lying sack of **** who got caught." He has to come up with an excuse or some reason to attract sympathy.
     
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  16. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    And even though he is a lying sack, the media and pundits are defending him.
     
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  18. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Everybody in that room should be extradited out of the country.

    I assume SBCC is a college in California?
     
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  19. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Well, let's keep the speaker, but otherwise, yeah. Export them all.
     
  20. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    I feel like Marvel has been playing a long game, getting guys hooked on Avengers movies just so they can bring in fem-scolders like Brie Larson to make the experience miserable.

     
  21. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Deadlifting 225 is weak. For a man. She needs to pipe down.

    I will watch Cpt. Marvel because I am a comic book geek but if their movies go totally left wing I'll quit watching them. So far they have actually had quite a libertarian message, whether or not that is on purpose.
     
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  22. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    So I've listened to and read some commentary on the Smollett story since he got shown to be a liar, and "mainstream" political commentators seem to fall into two camps. One camp is simply mystified and asks "why???" They ponder why anyone would make up such an incident, as though it isn't obvious. This is the easiest camp to be in, because you just shrug "who knows?," drop the story, and move on with your life.

    The second camp digs in. It grudgingly admits that Smollett was lying but then pitches "the narrative is still true" bit. Vox has decided to go with this approach. Link. For S&Gs, I decided to read their article, and it's interesting to see their approach. They claim that hate crimes are "real" and "fairly widespread."

    To support this, they first point to FBI statistics, but there's a problem. The FBI only reports 7,100 hate crimes per year. Well, if you consistently argue that illegal immigrant crime is no big deal as the Left generally does, you can't act like 7,100 crimes is a big deal. Hell, illegal immigrants almost surely commit more violent crimes than that just in Los Angeles (though we'll never know that for sure since it's politically incorrect to keep such statistics).

    So they turn to Bureau of Justice Statistics, which say there are more like 250,000 per year. Why such an enormous disparity? Because it's not based on actual reported crimes but on surveys, so it's far more subjective. However, I noticed that the article doesn't discuss any trends, and it doesn't discuss who is actually committing the hate crimes. It just glosses all over that and focuses on the 250,000 figure and the fact that 48 percent of those involved race as the motivating factor. So I decided to click on the BJS report to which they cite, and I can see why they don't discuss that information. It undermines two big leftist narratives on hate crimes.

    First, the 250,000 crimes per year figure is deceptive. That is the average number between 2004 and 2015. However, since a height of just under 294,000 in 2012, they were down to 208,000 in 2015 and had been falling since then. So the trend is down.

    But of course, the Left would then redirect away from the BJS report because it stops in 2015, and Trump came after that. They'd pivot back to the FBI report from 2017. OK. Let's play that game. Surely hate crimes are spiking because of Trump. Well, the trend has been upward since 2014 - long before Trump. Here's another thing that's worth nothing. Though 2017 was an increase over the previous few years, there were more hate crimes in every year from 1996 - 2007 except 2005, when they were very slightly lower. In context, Trump isn't a driver of hate crimes. That narrative is ********.

    Second, who's actually committing these hate crimes? Well, surely it's dominated by these neo-Nazi white conservatives roaming the country terrorizing blacks, right? That's the narrative most of the media puts forth. Well, maybe it's not that simple. 37.7 percent of hate crime offenders are white. 34.3 percent are black. Well, about 75 percent of the population is white, and about 13 percent of it is black. In other words, a black person is far, far more likely to commit a hate crime than a white person is. So instead of having these ridiculous discussions about why all these white conservatives are committing hate crimes, we should be asking why all these black liberal Democrats are roaming the country assaulting, murdering, and raping people for hateful reasons. I don't necessarily want that discussion, but it would be far more honest.

    Frankly, this is the kind of issue that makes me want to return to the United States and get back into politics. The Right really sucks on this issue. They let every ******** narrative go unanswered. They don't know the stats, don't know the issue, and don't have the balls to engage. It's really pathetic.
     
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  23. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Why engage? Only the wacky left spends their free time caring about these issues that mostly reside in their head.
     
  24. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Sounds like the rights' narrative of illegal immigration. Both sides have their pet issues not necessarily backed up by the facts.

    Btw- I haven't commented on the Smollett case because it's a sideshow for extremism on both sides.
     
  25. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Wrong again Lib. It’s the biased, shallow, hateful Libs and their media supporters standing disgustingly naked on center stage.
     
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  26. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    This Daily Show bit is funny
     
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  27. Hollandtx

    Hollandtx 250+ Posts

    I actually teared up at the display of pure hate in that Pledge of Allegiance video.
    What are we coming to?
     
  28. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

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  29. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Because it affects the way people view each side. Keep in mind that the "wacky Left" doesn't actually care about people getting attacked because of their race. If they did, they wouldn't spin the issue the way they do. What they care about is being able to frame the Right as a bunch of thugs looking for gays and black people to assault, because independents and moderates don't want to be associated with or think like people who do that sort of thing. Their narrative enables that framing, creates a false image, and costs you votes. That's why you should engage and why you should care.
     
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  30. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    That is true. The difference is that the Right gets hit back when they do this. When they go off about illegal immigrant crime, somebody always retorts, "Immigrants statistically commit fewer crimes than US citizen." In both written and spoken word, I've seen that raised literally thousands of times over the years - both by Left-wing advocates and by mainstream media figures. Of course, since many states (including California) don't track the immigration status of offenders, nobody knows what the truth is. Both are talking out their asses.

    When the hate crimes fairytale gets spun, it almost always goes unanswered, so people accept it as true. The Right just sits there like a deer in the headlights and waits for the story to be proven false and then jumps on it. When it comes to high-profile hate crimes, that has happened a lot, and that is helpful to a point. However, that only shoots down the anecdote. It doesn't shoot down the broader myth.

    I would agree that it is sideshow, but the broader issue is more than a sideshow.
     

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