2020 Recruiting - Football

Discussion in 'Recruiting' started by Joe Fan, Nov 25, 2017.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    We did not make the list for Gruver TE Jalin Conyers

     
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Princely Umanmielen of Manor

     
  3. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Joe Fan, 24/7 has Texas at 26 behind ou, aggy and TCU of all people. 2020 might be a small class, but anything out of the top 10 is concerning. I realize the total scholarship numbers Texas will be down in 2020 but pushing that far down? Is some of the luster off Herman and Texas or is it time for Herman to produce a Conference Championship and quality play in the playoff?
     
  4. I_Dont_Exist

    I_Dont_Exist 1,000+ Posts

    After a marquee win in the Sugar Bowl it's hard to believe any luster is off. If we're still in the 20's come October that's more than concerning but not now.
     
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  5. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    High exceptions for Herman this upcoming season.

    If he rises to the challenge, the recruits will come.
     
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  6. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    For me it was a marqee win on paper only, but I think Georgia was somewhat deflated by not making the playoffs. But on the other hand we did play without a couple of starters.
     
  7. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    Georgia made it clear they werent taking the Sugar Bowl off. They werent uninterested. Texas just beat them straight up. That was a win on the field.
     
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  8. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    Agree - and the game wasn't as close as the final score might indicate.
     
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  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Ouch

     
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  10. duff_man

    duff_man 250+ Posts

    Wow, I thought he was ours to loose. How did our staff F this one up? I think he was still going to visit us in the Fall, but still.
     
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  11. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

     
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  12. Handler

    Handler 1,000+ Posts

    Didn't think we were going to get him if he was sincere about playing with his OL teammate since it was pretty clear he was going OOS and loved Bama. Was really hoping he wasn't really a packaged deal and had a chance cause he looks like the biggest "can't miss" RB in years.
     
  13. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    Remember when the last 5 star rb said that to us. We won a Natty and he didnt.
     
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  14. BigL-Horn

    BigL-Horn 25+ Posts

    No, the players that we are after are just enjoying the process and will commit later in the year. Recruiting rankings don't matter that much this time of year. Aggy was at #1 last summer and we were around #10 and look how that ended. We're in the running for a lot of great players who have said they wanted to take their visits first. A few of them come in and we're back in top 10 pretty quickly. Plus wait until summer swimming pool party first. We seem to get a good bump after it. Come October if we are this low then worry.
     
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  15. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    I feel like we're a year or two away...Texas did great last year, but I think we need a couple more years of on the field success to start getting national recognition......For instance, OU is rolling the last 4 years....11-2 the last two years of Stoops and 12-2 each season under Riley. That's difficult to recruit against....and Aggy, well forget it I mean SEC SEC SEC JIMBO JIMBO JIMBO STADIUM STADIUM STADIUM but 3rd to 4th in division......oooooooooooopppppsss
     
  16. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    I believe the reason was Vince Young......and some others and some others....
     
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  17. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    ef

    but i understand his sentiment if he's a front runner and has no real allegiance here. we are still up-and-coming. and he doesn't care to bring Texas back to its glory.
     
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  18. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    In other words his buddy George doesnt want to come here.
     
  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    My sense is that he is focussed on the NFL and picked 5 schools that have much better recent histories of putting RBs in the NFL
     
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  20. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    Well there is truth in that but if a player is a difference-maker on his team and has measurables he will get noticed by a scout no matter what team he plays on. So I say if Texas comes in real prominence with a good season by going to playoffs and he's making a difference Scouts will take notice. I also think that other teams are getting in his ear with negative recruiting. I believe that we are going to have real real good offensive line play with herb at the coaching him. That's too bad because he would have opportunity to shine. So maybe that will fall into bijan's lap or perhaps Ty Jordan's lap. We gonna be good in the coming seasons- a playoff threat
     
  21. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    I’m not mad at these kids that choose not to come here. I’m upset that for whatever reason we aren’t getting these kids when we had momentum from last season and the Sugar bowl. The team we beat in the sugar bowl is on his list, but we can’t keep this kid at home at THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. What are our coaches doing? Not even talking about Bru McCoy might transfer. But we have missed on several big names from our home state going to out of state schools. We can break down every kid’s decision and make excuses why they chose other schools but our overall closing rate is just pathetic for the class of 2020. It’s hard to get momentum from other kids when this happens.
     
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  22. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 2,500+ Posts

    We are going to have to agree to disagree on one point. He isn't a can't miss prospect. He is good, very good, and it's sad that he isn't including Texas on his list, but he is coming from a school that is absolutely loaded with college talent. I always say beware of kids from Aledo because their stats are multiplied by the talent and coaching around them. North Shore is the same way.

    I'm not taking anything away from Evans, he is a great prospect, you don't get a SPARC score of 136 and not be considered a major talent. I'm just saying he isn't a can't miss prospect. There is only one "can't miss" running back that I have seen, it's the RB from California, Kendall Milton, he is the total package as far as I'm concerned.
     
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  23. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 2,500+ Posts

    1 Quit losing to Maryland
    2 Put some people in the NFL as high draft picks
    3 Win the Conference
    4 Beat Oklahoma regularly
    5 Make playoffs regularly

    Do those things and the talent will come. We are still feeling the direct effects of the Charlie Strong years and will be for another 3 years. Herman needs time to get his guys in place but also needs to show he can produce on a regular basis. Yes we are moving in the right direction but we need more than 2 years of proof. The Big 12 conference began in 1996 and we have won the conference 3 times in that span, blOwU has won it like 13 times, and all of those have been since 2000. These kids who are about to be seniors were born in 2002.
     
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  24. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    If we do your list then we are Bama or Clemson. Your same list applies to LSU as well replacing OU with bama and Maryland with Troy who they played at home for homecoming weekend and they are in Evans top 5 list. LSU has done none that’s on your list and their 2020 class is in the top three right now. Plus we got top 3 two years in a row. How do you explain that when we didn’t do any of the things on your list? We had momentum with top 3 back to back years and finished strong beating a team that many thought was a playoff team. Our coaches aren’t closing because he was high on us just two months ago.
     
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  25. Handler

    Handler 1,000+ Posts

    Not sure if Adams was ever a possibility but he eliminated us too.

    Is Bijan Robinson our last highly rated RB that has an offer?
     
  26. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

    Oklahoma has done this regularly yet we still manage higher classes than them. Look it would have been nice to land the kids but what he said was sort of true. We haven’t had a great feature back in a while. The conference as a whole actually but I credit that to the leagues style of play. Not saying we won’t ever land any top running backs but to get to the point where we can say hey we want you let’s go it’s going to be a while at that position hopefully Ingram can start the trend.
     
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  27. Handler

    Handler 1,000+ Posts


    Agree but I think we are all getting a little spoiled (I'm at top of that list). We have been really, really bad since these kids have been looking at schools and Herman has got us playing hard and tough. It's been amazing to see how well he has recruited and coached the lack of talent up to a 10 win season and 2-0 in bowls. This year is going to be tough to improve on last season unless we stay 100% healthy at every position except for wide-outs and safety. I've been focusing on 2020 since Herman was hired, that hasn't has changed for me.
     
  28. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    "... it’s going to be a while at that position hopefully Ingram can start the trend."

    Ingram + J. Whitt
     
  29. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    There are some very good (4* level or better) RBs seriously looking at us. Losing Evans hurts, but if we sign at least one of them, we're ok.
     
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  30. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 2,500+ Posts

    Or we are Georgia, or we are Oklahoma, or we are LSU.

    It's not about just being Clemson or Bama, the schools he picked have put lots of running backs in the NFL, they are all great at running the football and they all have dominate offensive lines.

    We are a two seasons away from having a offensive line that is equal to those schools when it comes to run blocking.

    And how do you know he was high on us 2 months ago? I maintain he has never been high on us, going back to comments he made before last season he has been questioning Texas all the time.

    I have stopped believing the recruiting experts that cover Texas long ago, they are there to blow smoke up our asses, that is why I don't subscribe to any of them. This kid has been about Bama and LSU forever and he will pick one of those two. Georgia is too far as is Ohio State, blOwU is just a vacation, and nothing more.
     

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