Kansas game observations

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by mchammer, Oct 20, 2019.

  1. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Not gonna touch the defense for the most part:

    - Overshown is a great athlete. Will be playing in the nfl assuming he learns his craft
    - Injuries to Green, Sterns and just realized Chris Brown really hurt the secondary
    - offensive woes for a team that scored 50 points include 4 drop passes, 2 bad snaps, 2 turnovers, and ill-timed penalties. Should have scored >60 points tonight.
     
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  2. Horn87

    Horn87 1,000+ Posts

    was there tonight----agree our 2nd (and 3rd) stringers are a real drop off defensively.
    --Missed Malcolm Roach 1st half
    --why don't we play a zone D with our inexperienced secondary? If we are very green in the backfield, how can we afford to place those guys on an island? especially since...
    --we have no pass rush whatsoever without the blitz, and this exposes our secondary
    --tired of Herman's attitude and answers at pressers, the "it can be fixed" ( But isn't), etc
    --who is making our play calling on these 4th down tries? You know Tommy isn't going to accept blame, but come on, man---is it you, Beck, or both who give final approval for these calls that are ridiculous when you have a qb who is more than able pick up two yds (or less) with a RPO or in tonight's case, run it up the gut when your RB's are getting 6+ypc?
    I'm tired and frustrated--this game set us back 3 yrs to the Charlie Strong era
    discuss...
     
  3. wadster

    wadster 5,000+ Posts

    It liberated me. Until TO either changes or is gone, I'll be fishing day game times. It's just too frustrating to waste a Sat. watching the abomination of a scheme he runs when I could be the lake.
     
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  4. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    But Charlie lost.

    Tonight was an offensive night high for both Herman at Texas and Ehlinger personally.
     
  5. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Thankfully I missed this one. 5-2 is all I know with a defense decimated with injuries. Beat the cockroaches.
     
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  6. FWHORN

    FWHORN 10,000+ Posts

    Zero pressure on QB and our db’s honestly look lost about half the time. I understand Herman’s comment about offense to start though. The offense had two fourth down conversions in first half that kept KU in game, convert those and Texas has 28-35 points at half and KU has 10. The two fourth quarter turnovers (one of which was gift from officials) also were huge. The game should have been about 60-35, we would still be bitching about the defense but it wouldn’t have taken a last second field goal to win.
     
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  7. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    THIS^! This team is guttier than a Charlie team.
     
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  8. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    The difference in this game was a blocked PAT and return for safety.
    This win is no worse than Charlie's loss.
     
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  9. old65horn

    old65horn 1,000+ Posts

    As McHammer stated to lead this thread, Overshown was one of the best tackler we had. He played well.

    Cooks had some moments, both good and bad, He hustled and ran down Williams or he would have scored, I think they just got a FG on that drive. The PI call on him was bogus, he was doing nothing more that what he was getting. However, he was getting sucked in instead out outside containment on numerous runs. We have GOT to get outside containment.

    Kansas had receiver running free all night.

    I went to bed with the worst case of heart burn, thought I was having another cardiac event.

    Gonna be a long season. Right now, we are overrated.
     
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  10. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    BS. Texas won. Period. Don't try to figure out a way that somehow this equals a loss. Get ready for TCU, though, because they'll be ready. Maybe you can celebrate a loss then.
     
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  11. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Zuck
    I wanted to laugh but too close to reality.
     
  12. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    This team is dinged up (may not be accurate term). Full strength (like vs Georgia/LSU) we compete with EVERYONE. Now, not so much. Charlie Strong would've lost by 20 with this lineup. Truth. :)
     
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  13. wadster

    wadster 5,000+ Posts

    Kansas was the worst offensive team in the Big 12 coming in. Guys you are totally missing the point. We keep the same scheme this win isn't going to mean squat. Only way we will beat Baylor or ISU is to score 50+. The problem is not just injury. It's scheme and running the same thing on every 3rd and long. Any decent OC is going to pick this apart. Being happy after a win like that is for losers. Entire program should be pissed off and committed to change. Only way to ever be elite is to quit accepting total dog dodo as anything other than it is.
     
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  14. wadster

    wadster 5,000+ Posts

    Go watch the game film. Tell me how a guy 15 yds off the LOS blitzing after a 1 count has any chance to get to the QB when he's 3 steps and out. All you've done is vacate the middle of the field and leave your young corners on a complete island with no deep safety. I don't think I've ever seen a scheme this bad. Oh, yea, I have. It was called Diaz and we fired his ***. We want to be back in the CCG change has to happen. Either TO changes his play calling or you let him go. Personally I'd like to just see him man up, own his stupid scheme and change it.
     
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  15. MajesticII

    MajesticII 1,000+ Posts

    Been saying this about our crazy blitzing since Orlando started doing it. One time #25 came from 15 yards back and didn't even make it to the LOS and the ball was gone into the hands of a KU WR....I called Orlando and Herman everything but Orlando and Herman....(*&^%$%^&*(^%$%^...Herman will NEVER fire Orlando ...
    Our only hope is to get an offense as good as OU's was last year...OR.... Tom hires Greg Robinson to tutor this guy.
     
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  16. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Ok that is doable.
     
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  17. ShAArk92

    ShAArk92 1,000+ Posts

    I've never been a fan of 3 down linemen every snap.

    How many dropped passes in the end zone/first down did KU have??? and with 7-8 DBs in coverage.

    A championship team takes care of business with a team like Kansas this year and has the 2s/3s playing hard (same game plan) after the first possession or two of the 2nd half. The opponent getting more than a FG against the 3s ... possibly making 1/2 of the total points of the offense with their last possession.

    our squad didn't do that after the 2nd possession ... folded. Play calling was stupid ridiculous.
     
  18. p_town_horn

    p_town_horn 1,000+ Posts

    The problems are legion on defense but we are so depleted we had a walk-on playing safety for part of the game. A walk on. Let that sink in.

    A walk on playing in a tight conference game. How frequently are teams that depleted at any position. We get a few guys back and we can finish the season strong.

    Getting past TCU may be tough though.
     
  19. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Fortunately, I had an Astros game to cuss and discuss while the Texas Sievehorns gave up tons of points and yards...fortunately, the Kansas kicking game is about as good as the Yankee relievers were...
     
  20. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

  21. El Torito

    El Torito 1,000+ Posts

    KU torched us for 24 points, in the four quarter alone. The defense was putrid. Orlando was outcoached/outschemed (again) and looked lost. Props to Dicker for bailing us out with a field goal on the last play of the game. With Iowa State and Baylor on the schedule, Texas better fix it fast.
     
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  22. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Herman needs to cut the short comments and explain his reasoning - do a little politicking for the team.
     
  23. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I thought the players took KU not too serious in the first half when we could have gotten some breathing room.
     
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  24. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Maybe he's afraid Aaron Rodgers will talk bad about him.
     
  25. stanhin

    stanhin 5,000+ Posts

    Lots of offense; much less defense.
     
  26. MajesticII

    MajesticII 1,000+ Posts

    Our OL make little mistakes that kill plays....
    4th down play ( like many plays this year ) Terrible snap messes up the play.
    Play right after KU touchdown late in 4th qtr.... #68 misses block on power sweep type play to our right side..He blocks down, but steps at guy he is supposed to block instead of stepping flat down the line in order to cut him off..guy slips by him and wrecks the play. Many plays where guys just don't block who they should due to poor angles etc.....Hopefully coaches see these things and are teaching them proper steps etc.so they correct it.
     
  27. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    and even less serious after the first two quick TD's.

    This seems to be a quirk in all of Herman's teams - when the going is easy they let up only to find the downtrodden become aggressors.
     
  28. wadster

    wadster 5,000+ Posts

    You get excellence when you demand excellence regardless of what the other side does. This is the Saban/Meyer way. They expect individual excellence across the board.
     
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  29. Chinstrap

    Chinstrap 1,000+ Posts

    Too many problems with this team to mention them all, but if everyone would go back and review the 2 point conversion it becomes evident that a big issue is between the player’s ears. Three defenders were on the right sideline of the endzone and standing all alone under the goal post is the receiver, a lonely man.

    It is time to review the recruiting of quality athletes vs. quality football players who can cover and tackle in the open field. I am losing faith in our high school coaches as well as the Texas coache’s ability to coach them up.
     
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  30. ShAArk92

    ShAArk92 1,000+ Posts

    I completely missed that! thanks.
     

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