Impeachment

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Here is the group that has been driving the impeachment of Trump -- Nancy Pelosi (San Francisco), Maxine Waters (LA), Adam Schiff (Hollywood), Jerry Nadler (NYC - Upper West Side of Manhattan), Eliot Engel (NYC - the Bronx and Westchester County), Carolyn Maloney (NYC - East Side of Manhattan, Long Island, Queens, Brooklyn) and Richard Neal (Massachusetts)

    Do you think these bi-coastal elites give a crap about you or care what you think -- about anything? Ever? Pretty sure we can all guess what they think of Texas.

    If we do away with the electoral college, these same people will control everything.

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  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I tuned into CNN at the start of the IG Report, just to see what they were saying
    Guess what?
    They were not covering it
    They completely skipped Lindsey Graham's opening statement about the origins of the Russia investigation.
    They picked up coverage only when Feinstein began talking
    Anyone surprised?
     
  3. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    I heard they didn't cover it all, but no, that does not surprise me they would tune in for that shrill.
     
  4. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    Im curious about a hypothetical. Can an impeached and removed President run for the office again?
     
  5. militaryhorn

    militaryhorn Prediction Contest Manager

    All Your Questions Answered
     
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  6. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    He can run unless he's actually removed and as part of its judgment, the Senate bars him from holding federal office in the future.
     
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  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Is Matt a Hornfans lurker too?
    I think I wrote this same sentence a couple years ago
     
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  8. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Got a kick out of Tennessee's Steve Cohen claiming that Trump's phone call with the Ukrainian president was somehow an affront to the memory of Martin Luther King Jr. Figure that one out!

    Godwin's Law deals with the probability of someone invoking Hitler in a debate. Maybe we need a name for the first person to invoke MLK's name to give the appearance of righteousness to their side of the debate.
     
  9. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Articles of impeachment being read:

     
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  10. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    There were some very well stated monologues from both sides. That said, there were some poor ones from both sides as well.
     
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  11. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    But where are we?

    Do we have direct evidence that:

    1) Trump directly threatened to withhold aid unless the Biden's were investigated?
    2) Trump ordered his agent to pass along the threat and the agent in fact did pass along the threat?

    And what about the nauseating hypocrisy of the white privilege attack campaign against a select group of white people (smacks of 1930's Germany) and the rush to cover for the Biden's actions and privilege?
     
  12. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    LOL
    So now Trump is a serial solicitor.
     
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  13. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    I'd like to hear that one some day.
     
  14. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    The saviors of America. The pride of Liberalism. The shining example of how life can be.
     
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  15. humahuma

    humahuma 1,000+ Posts

    I laughed also at that statement, then changed the channel. I am waiting for the dems to vote for impeachment, then I will cut Trump re-election committee a check.
     
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  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I still think he banged Katie Hill.
     
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  17. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    He's just trying to make Oklahoma relevant.
     
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  18. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Ok, I'm talking to a friend from Laredo. He is saying that Trump is guilty because he released the money to Ukraine a few weeks after the Whistleblower became known to him.
     
  19. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    We're in the playoff. We're relevant. :)
     
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  20. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    He's guilty for holding it up and then passing along conditions for it to be released. If the conditions were something that furthered US foreign policy there'd be some wiggle room for him. They don't. The conditions were very clearly part of a domestic political errand. Notorious lefty John Bolton referred to it as a drug deal and advised staff to go to the Office of General Counsel.
     
  21. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

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  22. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    I just read the transcript. I saw a mention of "Crowdstrike" by Trump along with the tag line of "if it's possible" meaning he hope's the Ukraine President checks out Crowdstrike. No mention of the Biden's. What am I missing here? The transcript was once represented as direct evidence. It also would be part of the trail you are establishing when you say, "... and then passing along conditions for it to be released."

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
     
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    She liked brushing his hair
    And who wouldnt?
     
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  24. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Top of page 4 he references Biden's son and Biden. I also don't like that "she's going to go through some things". He could have replaced her with no pretext. I'm told Obama put in all new Ambassadors. Hell the pretext makes it worse. And, to make her go through something months after she's already been replaced is craven to try to validate your "drug deal".
     
  25. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Look at motivations. Why would Sondland tell this lie? There is no good reason unless he played the long con and paid a cool million to Trump's inauguration just to become an ambassador so that he could be involved in this drug deal to then go and lie about it. I mean that's some active measures.

    Or, this dude is worried that if they tell the truth then Trump will do something like invite Vlad or Kisliak to the White House and eventually swing over to their side in the actual shooting war that's going on. I mean that would never happen, right?
     
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  26. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    You could certainly do a lot worse on Capitol Hill.
     
  27. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    I didn't say Sondland lied, and I haven't heard Rs say he did. His recollections are being questioned. He said he didn't recall, in some form, over 300 times I think it was.

    So, are you calling a Ukranian a liar like the Dems are saying Zelensky is?
     
  28. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  29. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Yes. They have a very good reason to be less than forthright with the truth. It's on their eastern border.
     
  30. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Who hasn't?
     
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