Dumb Political Correctness

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Mr. Deez, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I have no issue with any of this. It's all good.

    I totally understand this. If someone who claims to be a Christian tortures you unjustly, I can see why that would make you less than thrilled with Christianity, especially if she does that torturing in the name of Christianity as she does. Experiences absolutely do matter.

    A few points to consider though. First, was your faith based on your ex-wife? I'm sure your initial thought is, "of course it wasn't based on my ex-wife." You might even be offended at even being asked the question, but really think about it. Lots of people abandon their faith when they find out some pastor did something terrible. (See Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggert, Robert Tilton, etc.) How many Catholics have left Christianity over the sex abuse scandals? Plenty. Well, those people's faith was predicated on their personal expectations of a fellow human being whether they admit it or not.

    By the way, I'm not saying this to look down upon those who abandoned their faith over the acts of other people. That isn't unreasonable, and frankly, it makes plenty of sense. However, my suggestion to them (and perhaps to you) is to reach for a faith that's based not on people but on a personal relationship with Christ - the one thing that never errs. Your ex-wife may have claimed to be very pious, but at her core, she is fallen person bound to err.

    Second, have you considered the possibility that your ex-wife is full of crap? That might seem like a no-brainer, but I don't just mean that she's crazy and mistreating you and your kids. I mean that perhaps she's corrupted and/or deceived and acting against the wishes of God rather than in alignment with them as she claims. It's easy to play righteous and invoke God in a divorce as she obviously is, but she isn't the final authority. I'm not going to ask you to justify or explain why you sought a divorce. That's none of my business, but there are biblically sound reasons to seek a divorce. I just don't see you as the kind of guy to divorce for weak reasons.

    If her former pastor has counseled her to accept the divorce rather than trying to encourage you to stay with her, that suggests to me that he thinks the divorce is morally justified. So no, I don't think you're going to burn in hell for divorcing her. However, let's assume for the sake of discussion that your divorce was unbiblical. That would make you guilty of a sin (like all of us). It wouldn't make you guilty of an unforgivable sin.

    As for promising never to attend a church again, that's your prerogative. However, let me give you my rationale for why I attend. It's not a favor to my pastor or God. They don't need my time, my attendance, or my money. Frankly, I attend for my own benefit. It keeps me tethered to God and helps me to keep my own life in perspective. I'm not one of these people who seeks a church that affirms my beliefs or my lifestyle. That's a waste of time. Who the hell am I to presume to be the authority of what's right for me? I may seem like a "good guy" and try to be that, but I'm a sinner who's full of wickedness despite my efforts. Therefore, so long as it's biblical, I want a church to challenge me and even make me uncomfortable at times. That's how I become a better man.

    So before committing never to attend church again, just consider the possibility that church attendance might actually help if you find the right one. Will you go to hell if you don't attend? No, but I wouldn't close my mind to it.
     
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  2. Horn6721

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  3. Mr. Deez

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  4. TxnByBirth

    TxnByBirth 1,000+ Posts

    When I read about that it made me rethink my position on wealth redistribution. Stupid people shouldn't have that much money.
     
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  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  7. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    At this point I'm so honestly lost at the very idea that it's impossible to have diversity and equality (unless by "equality" you mean "exact outcomes for every single person", which you don't get even without diversity either) that I really don't know what to say from here.

    Fresh Prince took down this "you aren't black enough" line of thinking brilliantly a couple of decades ago, back when the left would have wholeheartedly agreed with the show's message.

    There are other Trump supporters on the roster. The difference is Huff has a history of being an insufferable dick about it.
     
  8. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I am talking about concepts. How is something equal and diverse? Apply that to people if you like. In what way would you have to define both in order to say that people are both?

    I think it is obvious that people are diverse. No 2 people are alike. Even siblings who are the most similar genetically are very different people.

    So that leaves the equal side. How can people, when we know each is so different, be described at equal? How are they equal? There are some things that are common to all people, so I understand the idea. I could explain where I think people are equal and diverse but I was curious to see what someone else would say. Sorry you couldn't think of anything.

    I tend to think treating people as individuals tends to emphasize the diversity. Forcing people to be all the same thing, live the same life, etc. would be tyranny to me. Allowing people to pursue their own life as diverse people is my idea of freedom.

    But then there are common human elements that every individual possesses and that should be respected. We are all equally human, who equally need respect as a human (though some people earn more respect than others), and equal treatment under the law of the land. But that is as equal as I can see. The balance still seems much more on the diverse and unequal side to me.
     
  9. Joe Fan

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  10. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    That's not my idea of good parenting. Am I all alone in thinking this?
     
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  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    My sense is commenting on it is a minefield. It sort of reminds me of that Bloomberg speech in Europe before his fellow intelligentsia where he was saying Iowans are too ignorant to understand why they should be happy let grown men wearing dresses watch their daughters pee in the little girls room.
     
  12. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    This argument is commonly known as "Argumentum Ad Hominem -Circumstantial Subcategory", and is a fallacy. Whether Trump is acceptable to a voter over any alternative is not dependent on that voter's special circumstance, be they a Christian, Republican, Muslim, or Democrat. Stating that a Christian should reject Trump because not doing so would be a violation of scripture is a circumstantial fallacy (specific to the circumstances of the Christian), and does not affect the Truth or Untruth of the argument that Trump was the better choice at the time he was elected. Additionally, if a Christian were to reject every candidate that violated scripture, they would never vote.
     
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  13. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Pwn3d
     
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  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    dang
     
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  15. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Have to really need to see some porn to look for her.
     
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  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I don't believe that he's supportive. No dad would be. He's only expressing his support so that he doesn't get ridiculed by other Hollywood idiots for being prudish.
     
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  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    That is probably what it is too -- yuck x 2
     
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  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Why isn't he going after the ones she said molested her?
     
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  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This guy is back to defend his state of Texas girls wrestling title. They call this stuff "intersectionality." Watching them come after each other is kind of weird. It's hard to see how this actually qualifies as "feminist." Seems to me more like it is erasing females.

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  20. mb227

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    As I noted on Twitter today...when the East German Olympic team took performance enhancing drugs, it was evil. When trans do so, it is "stunning and brave."
     
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  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    There was a great story from 1970s era US women's Olympic swim team when they were changing in the dressing room. The the doors busted open and they heard a bunch of males voices entering. She said everyone in the facility starting diving and scrambling for towels. But it was the East German girls team walking in.

    Here is a doc about all that
     
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  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    My favorite lesbian
     
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  23. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

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  24. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    No one saw this coming.:facepalm:
     
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  25. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    And this is where they go over the top. Most people don't really care where people use the bathroom if they're not making an issue of it and don't even mind some accommodations. This school has a single-use bathroom for anyone to use. That is more than fair. However, people get concerned when they say, "you MUST let me take a dump and pull my junk out in front of you and your kids or you'll get sued" and bring the power of the state to force it.

    And it's so sad. Running a school and educating children is a tough job. It has to be distracting and difficult to do their jobs while brining a stupid-*** issue like this into the school, especially an elementary school. And even beyond the bathroom issue, how dare this sack of **** force a bunch of elementary school children to deal with this idiotic issue at such a young age. Respect these children's innocence.
     
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  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Geez - is anyone in Hollywood not a perv?
    This is from "a conversation" with Steven Spielberg, George Lucas and Lawrence Kasdan. Apparently George Lucas wanted Indiana Jones to be a pedophile?


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    Spielberg now with back-to-back odd positions (not a pun)
     
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  27. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    A free speech union is being formed in the UK. I might join when I move there. I like their agenda. Link. We need something like this in the US.
     
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  28. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    John R Lott Jr (Texas Public Policy Foundation) says data shows that since 2000, in 20 states where teachers are allowed to carry in school, not one shooting or gun injury has taken place in those schools.
     
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  29. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    You know how I know the bolded part is absolutely true?

    Because if a gun accident would have happened at a school we wouldh have heard about it nonstop for a week on every news channel.

    That's 20 years with teachers having guns in schools without one incident.
     
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  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This is so retarded. Might as well go for unisex on all sports. Why even have two separate gender classes when "gender is a fluid concept?" Let them all compete as men. And goodbye Title IX. Think of the money schools like UT will save when it can eliminate the costs of all those scholarships tied to all those programs

     
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