2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

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  1. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

    In the last decade, more than half of the SuperPAC money came from these 25 people.
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  2. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Which Democrat candidate do I see third on the list?
     
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  3. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

    Tom Steyer?
     
  4. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    There's one problem that you and this left wing analysis doesn't cover, Bubba. If the Obamacare mandate was not part of the problem and it was all the recession's fault, then why did the part time situation not get back to pre-recession levels after the recession ended? By the end of Obama's term the "35 hours or more" should have been back to normal (pre-recession) but it didn't. In fact, between 2015- 2016 and part of 2017 "the 35 hours or more" should have moved upward but it stalled. That chart is more damning than helping your cause, Bubba.
     
  5. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Where are the evil Koch Brothers?
     
  6. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    A threat that doesn’t show up in years 1-4, but has a delayed fuse for years 5-8. Are you delusional?
     
  7. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I saw a long article recently on suicide. Upward trend started way before Trump.
     
  8. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

  9. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    From the article you shared, "each aspect of the crisis facing American farmers serves as a damning exposure of the irrationality of the capitalist system"

    What the hell kind of sites are you using for a reference, man? Was 1980s Pravda not available?

    Btw, farm bankruptcies have been increasing the last 5 years. That's before Trump came to office. In other words, it was happening before BEFORE the tariffs. U.S. farm bankruptcies hit an eight-year high: court data
     
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  10. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    A little surprised to see "Uncle Bob" Perry on that list when he died in 2013. That's a lot of coin to throw around in a short period of time.
     
  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Saw this on Facebook.

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  12. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Can you ever remember the Washington Post running a headline criticizing a Democrat!? It's a sign the end is near.
    Apparently Biden has been telling people who was arrested with Mandela, or some such nonsense. Not that long ago, most Dem voters were ready to fall in line behind this guy

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ous-claim-he-was-arrested-trying-see-mandela/
     
  15. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  16. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Can’t find the article online. It was an in-depth analysis on presumed causes of suicide. Had data going back 100 years. The fact that you are blaming this on Trump is another example of your TDS. Think about it: using dead farmers to make a point about orange man bad. You must be out of ammo for such a poor critique of the president. Get a life.
     
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  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Dems should be charged criminally with elder abuse
     
  18. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    No, his corrupt family who live off his name.
     
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  19. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    The man displays the early stages of dementia. This is something my father in law is currently suffering, though he is more advanced than Creepy Joe. I don't wish the condition on anybody, but it is obvious Joe has it. He really should bow out gracefully, and soon.
     
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  20. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    bubba
    You are bashing the 50 year record unemployment rate with this,
    "Interesting that 3% more of the black population was in the workforce in 2001."
    Since people of retirement age are no longer counted in the work force I know you know there are black people reaching 55 as well as white.
    Did the workforce rate for whites decline or rise during same time frame?
     
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  21. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I thought you'd appreciate the site. :)

    "U.S. farm bankruptcy rates jumped 20% in 2019 - to an eight-year high - as financial woes in the U.S. agricultural economy continued in spite of massive federal bail-out funding, according to federal court data."
     
  22. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I don't know. I just said it was interesting. I'm not an actuary. I'd think that the black population was growing faster than it was aging. I'd expect that the percentage of black workers in the workforce would be slowly increasing as the % of Caucasian population is slowly dropping relative to the rest.
     
  23. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    ?Uh
    read your posts again.
     
  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Ive seen some accounts that Buttigieg was "booed off the stage" at a talk in SoCar by the "Black Voters Matter" folks.
    He is polling low there

     
  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Dem strategists say they only have a week to save us from the Bern.
    Otherwise our future is gulags, firing squads and/or bread lines.

    The Memo: Democratic rivals have seven days to stop Sanders

    "Rival candidates have just a week to stop Sen. Bernie Sanders if they hope to prevent the Independent from Vermont from taking the party’s presidential nomination.

    Sanders is the undisputed front-runner in the race after his thumping victory in Nevada’s caucuses on Saturday.

    His current trajectory is set to carry him to at least a top-two finish in South Carolina’s primary Saturday. From there, he looks likely to roll through Super Tuesday on March 3, harvesting huge numbers of delegates from California and other large states.

    It is eminently plausible that, by the end of that night, Sanders will have jumped out to a delegate lead that none of his rivals can reel in — especially given the likelihood that more than a half-dozen other major candidates remain in the race.

    It’s a prospect that thrills his supporters — and horrifies Democrats who fear the democratic socialist would lose a general election to President Trump..."
     
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  26. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    "Interesting that 3% more of the black population was in the workforce in 2001. Seems like the unemployment rates could be baked. Interesting. I know that was the claim from the right from 1/20/09 through 1/19/2017."

    I said it was interesting. That said, you're partially correct. It was actually a poke at the 6ish years that the left dealt with the right claiming any labor statistic coming from Obama's White House was not based in actual facts. It irritated me then, it irritates me that no one remembers. Much like the right's pure hatred of debt from 1/20/09-1/19/17.
     
  27. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Good find Longest Horn. Hats off to you. Two points to consider though, by showing that Super PACs are being used by the wealthy to advance their interests.

    First. I don't know all the names on that list. But the ones I do are associated with the Democratic Party, except for Bob Perry and Adelson. The top name, Adelson, is bipartisan and linked to Neoconservative interventionist foreign policy. He is one of the reasons that policy is so powerful in the US government today. To disagree with it is to disagree with the money.

    Second. The rich are always going to have outsized influence over the political system. If not within it then outside of it. Ending Super PACs will not end it, but it will affect the ability of everybody else to coalesce and combine around policy ideas and political goals.

    Third. It proves Buttigieg incorrect. The money isn't "dark". It is exposed to the light as the short horned poster made clear with the chart.
     
  28. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    It was not that long ago that the WAPO was pimping Biden to everyone. Now look at them. It's always weird watching when liberal media decides it is time to give an honest critique of one of their own.

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  29. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I blame his family. The poor man is clearly suffering. Yesterday he said in 2016 he negotiated with a Chinese PM who died in 97
    then he said he was running for US Senate.
    let the poor man retire with some dignity
     
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  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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