NFL Draft

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  1. Joe Fan

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  2. Joe Fan

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    So apparently this tweet caused someone to phone in and tattle on Brady for working out in a park^^
    "And he wasnt wearing a mask!"
     
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  3. RainH2burntO

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    Not sure I totally agree but do agree it is a very suspect guage when taken too seriously. I posted it because there is very little of sports-related interest to "talk" about right now. Having said this, it has proved prescient with some prospects.
     
  4. RainH2burntO

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    Don't you think not caring or trying when your future employer is testing you might be a red flag in itself?
     
  5. Horns11

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    Oh I think VY had a ton of red flags. I'm the least apologetic VY fan on this board, as I don't think 1 more year or 5 more years in college would have made him an adequate NFL QB.

    I don't think a cognitive abilities test has much to do with anything for the NFL Draft. It's a fun "look what I can do" thing that doesn't correlate to success in the NFL most of the time. If you're playing CB, you need to be fast, physical, and understand your role on a play. Whether or not you can answer the "train is traveling 20 mph" questions? I bet there are "normal" people who can't answer those either with a time limit.
     
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  6. Joe Fan

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    2014 flashback

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  7. RainH2burntO

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    Fair points...
    I agree with alot of what you are saying, Horns, and again mainly listed that just for fun. I don't read too much into it, but it does seem, at least for QBs...there is a threshold that should give an owner/gm pause based on history. The study I noted suggests that threshold is about 25.
    I'm intrigued now...think I'm going to go check out this test for myself...
     
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    1978 flashback

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  9. Horns11

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    Remember that you're allowed to use scratch paper! My guess is that a lot of the guys who scored lower than 10 didn't have any, or ask for any, or care to ask for any, or use any that was provided.

    The verbal and reading questions were answerable in about 2 seconds. It's the math ones and the "check all that apply" spatial reasoning ones that give people time fits against the 12-minute limit.

    Honestly, I think 25 is a bit high for a QB threshold. A reasonably educated person would swing that without scratch paper. But like I said in the other post... this is the NFL. I just don't think they're going to use this info when they're in a huddle and things like muscle memory and athleticism take over.
     
  10. Horn87

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    So why did Earl choose #34 at the Earlers? JF, Sabre anyone else recall? I just remember that rb's later on like Thurman Thomas chose #34 because EARL wore #34!
     
  11. SabreHorn

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    A veteran player had #20 and offered to sell it to Earl. If you know Earl, there was no way he would pay the guy. Earl chose 34 from the numbers available.

    I don't remember if there was some significance to 34 or not.
     
  12. longhorn47

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    Campbell wore No. 20 at the University of Texas and John Tyler High School, but that number belonged to Oilers' second-year safety Bill Currier.

    "It had been a big deal the year before when Tony Dorsett paid $15,000 to get uniform number 33 with the Cowboys," Campbell told the Houston Chronicle's David Barron. "The guys were chirping about what I was going to do to get number 20, and J.C. Wilson, who was my roommate, said Bill Currier would sell it to me for 15 grand.

    "Bum Phillips and I were walking to the locker room, and we passed the basket where you would pull your uniform off for it to be washed the next day. We saw number 34, and Bum said, 'Hey, what about this one?'

    "I said, 'That's fine. The jersey doesn't get you in the end zone.' Bum said, 'Atta boy.'"
     
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  16. Joe Fan

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    After having no players drafted in 2014 (for the first time since 1937), we have since had only 13 players total drafted

    2015 5
    2016 1
    2017 1
    2018 4
    2019 2
     
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  17. bystander

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  18. HornHuskerDad

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    I'm surprised and disappointed with the pick the Cowboys made. No doubt Lamb is a talented receiver, but Dallas had huge needs on the defensive side - and there were excellent defenders available at #17. Somewhere along the line a team that thinks of itself as a Super Bowl contender has to be able to get a couple of keys stops - they can't count on winning every game with a basketball-level scoring fest.
     
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  19. Joe Fan

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    Going back further, our 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016 recruiting classes yielded 12 draft picks
    2011 (2)
    2012 (2)
    2013 (1)
    2014 (1)
    2015 (6)
    2016 (0 with a chance to add next draft)
    Most of these classes were either #1 or 2 in the Big 12
    2012 was the #2 class in all of CFB.
     
  20. Joe Fan

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    I think Jerry was alone in his basement for this draft
     
  21. bystander

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    I'm not too bothered by this. If we assume Lamb dropped for reasons unrelated to character and instead because other teams reached for need, then this is a value pick and completely turns that offense into a top three juggernaut.

    Whenever I thought about Kaisson I smelled Taco's... I just don't think a real stud at DE would drop that far. All the other picks were solid in that grouping. We could have easily picked Murray due to Vander Esch's disk problems and Sean Lee's fossil status. But losing Byron Jones may be the real problem. Hopefully they grab an adequate body in round 2.
     
  22. Joe Fan

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    UT 1st round picks from 2001
    01 Davis/Hampton
    02 Williams/Jammer
    04 Williams/Tubbs
    05 Benson/Johnson
    06 Young/Huff
    07 Griffin/Ross
    09 Orakpo
    2010 Thomas
    2013 Vaccaro
    2015 Brown
    None since 2015 (13 draft picks since 2015, with 0 in '14)
     
  23. Joe Fan

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    Last night broke a string a 3-straight Texas-born players taken No. 1 overall
    The highest pick from Texas was CB Jeff Okudah at #3

     
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  24. Joe Fan

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    Regarding Feldman immed above^, 2017 was a brutal year for in-state schools.
    12 of the top 14 players left the state.

    But Herman reversed this in 2018, signing 7 of the top 10 to Texas

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  25. dukesteer

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    Jerrah always is distracted by the glitter.
     
  26. dukesteer

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    Just a hunch that Ossai, Cosmi and Sterns will all be first rounders. Coburn might get there as well. I just hope they all stay around for a while, the juniors that is.
     
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  27. Joe Fan

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    2020 1st round picks from the state -- 7 total/4 from the Houston area

    3. Lions — CB Jeff Okudah, Ohio State is from Grand Prairie
    17. Cowboys — WR CeeDee Lamb, ou is from Richmond (Houston)
    20. Jags — OLB K’Lavon Chaisson, LSU is from Houston
    21. Eagles — WR Jalen Reagor, TCU is from Waxahachie
    23. Chargers — LB Kenneth Murray, ou is from Missouri City (Houston)
    27. Seahawks — LB Jordyn Brooks, TTU is from Houston
    31. Vikings — CB Jeff Gladney, TCU is from New Boston (Texarkana)

    No Texas, no aggy, no Baylor, no UH

    UH will have an OL taken in round 2 - Josh Jones who was recruited by Herman who flipped him late from Okie St
     
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