2021 Recruiting - Football

Discussion in 'Recruiting' started by Badass, May 7, 2018.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Not yet. But we actually have a decent shot at a 4-man sweep of DFW DBs with:
    4-star Bowman (committed) - #2 ATH nationally
    4-star Coffey (should commit soon) - #7 S in the 247 Comp
    4-star Ibraheem - #11 CB in the 247 Comp
    4-star Harmon - #20 CB in the 247 Comp (head to head with aggy here)
     
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  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Film: Cain has a strong frame with good length and room to add weight. He shows good aerial ability and body control when tracking passes, and he shows good hands. Cain shows the ability to move the chains and push defenses vertically. Cain is still raw athletically, but he shows natural receiving ability that can be built on.
    From The Roundup: Recapping a big week in Texas recruiting

     
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  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Herman also supposedly said something related like -- we had some choices in the last two cycles between higher rated players with some character questions vs slightly lower rated players with fewer character issues and we ended up regretting deciding on the recruits with the character risks.
    He, of course, did not get specific on the players involved but probably pretty obvious.

     
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  6. Omniscient.one

    Omniscient.one 500+ Posts

    I do the same.

    But the tape on these two, especially Cain, looks legit and regardless of stars or other offers I think are good takes. I think the recruiting services overvalue player performances at satellite camps, especially those ridiculous one on one drills without pads.
     
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  7. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    He is all hands and no body with his catching technique. I think Herman and Coleman must have noticed that also.
     
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    He looks kinda raw, but I guess is to be expected. He has a good frame/control and fights for the ball, but OTOH the film didnt seem like he was able to shake coverage. He also plays BBall which should help. Plus you can see him blocking downfield a couple times which is also good

    I still like Hal Presley and hope we keep pursuing him (as well as Michael Jackson as USC still seems a mess). Another OOS WR we have a shot at is Jaden Alexis from Florida - film looks good + has a verified 4.41 time in 40 + has some NFL bloodlines + is his student body president
     
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  9. Joe Fan

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  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    About Clayton Smith to ou (+ losing Jackson and Earle, although not sure if he really means Landon or Donovan Jackson)
     
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  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    updated

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  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Some more highlights for Cain -- looks better than the game film IMO
     
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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    OK then - Vogel saying trust the WR evals
     
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  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    It is pretty easy to tell what 4-star LB Kendrick Blackshire (Duncanville), 3-star S Isaiah Nwokobia (Skyline) and LB Charles Minnieweather (Skyline) have been doing with their time during the lockdown

     
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  15. Omniscient.one

    Omniscient.one 500+ Posts

    Curls, curls, and more curls. Those arms look photoshopped
     
  16. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    Dayum,
    I wanted Smith since I heard about him a long time ago:soapbox:
     
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  17. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    But notice in the highlights that every catch was with both hands and he never lost a contested catch nor a possession. LJH and CJ both improved as they played, but both used their body too often. Bru was best coming in. Eff Mehringer for screwing that one up.

    I like his twitter graphics where he seems to molt from an LSU type uniform into a Texas uniform.

     
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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Totally, almost looks fake
     
  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    And I thought we had him. ou is selling immediate PT to defenders. If you recall Bryson Washington from last cycle who they also flipped, they supposedly told him "don't worry, you are going to play because everyone else on this defense sucks"
     
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  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Current rumor is Baylor :confused2:
     
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  21. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    At least zero u is not telling lies to recruit - everyone else on their defense really does suck. The game against LSU certainly validated that fact.
     
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  22. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    I absolutely hate getting a bunch of "project" players. That's a sign we can't get who we really want. Spare me the "but so and so does well with them" crap. Tell me the last time a national champion was loaded with three star talent. Not one or two exceptions because that's BS. Something is wrong. Almost half of our 2021 class is "upside".
     
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  23. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    All hands all of the time. Just like his highlight reel. He is a winner.
     
  24. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    The corollary is there is no development in practice. They only get torched on the field.
     
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  25. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    Well I wouldn't put too much stock in one highlight film. I want to know how fast he runs and can he get separation. We'll eventually find out these things but I'm tempering my excitement.
     
  26. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    Well I just read JF's post about Cain on the 2020 thread and I am officially much more excited about Cain. Just sayin.:thumbup:
     
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  27. MajesticII

    MajesticII 1,000+ Posts

    Is that translated to ...Since I can't get many 5 stars to sign, I'll just go after the other guys.
    Look Bama bound...Roid City ?
     
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  28. Omniscient.one

    Omniscient.one 500+ Posts

    Garbage post. The difference between the lowest-rated 4 star and the highest-rated 3 star on 247 is .0004. For 4 and 5 stars, the difference is literally zero. Exact same score yet one is 5 stars and one is 4.

    Honest question, does anyone know how player stars/grades are calculated? Is it through statistical analysis like PFF, or just eyeball tests? And what about the qualifications of the experts behind the rankings? Is there a baseline of credentials? I’m assuming no. It’s not entirely cynical to say that the people running these sites will do whatever it takes to get more people to buy subscriptions. I wouldn’t go as far as aggy in saying the ratings are bogus, but when one really thinks about the system as a whole, it’s pretty absurd to rely solely on a player’s number of stars.
     
  29. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Best I can tell, there is no buzz around the program. Mullen goes to Florida and boom... we struggle and struggle. OU keeps reloading with their new modern coach. Urban Meyer is out and Ohio State recruiting is amazing this year.

    This is a HUGE year coming up.
     
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  30. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    Moore, a cousin of Jordan Whittington, does not seem to have any motivation problems,. He made an immensely stupid mistake off the field, owned up to it, and is proving out his court ordered requirements. At anytime after Moore's arrest, Herman could have severed ties with him without any penalty but did not.

    Shepherd has certainly demonstrated some self control after leaving the program. It is unfortunate he could not do so in the program nor in the class room, evidently.
     
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