July 1 Cutoff date for Football - ugh

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by Handler, Mar 23, 2020.

  1. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    It does appear to be 3x more contagious than the flu, but it has the same fatality rate as the flu. So, it’s like 3 flu seasons compressed into one. So, the response is not to fear the death rate, but to mitigate the spread.
     
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  2. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    This is for the CA state system, not the UC system.
     
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  3. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Can you explain to me why Texas has 1200 deaths and NY has 27000 deaths even though Texas has 50% more population? More generally why are some states have lower deaths than others? Without this key data, anyone claiming to make decisions on “data” or even wanting to is frankly not thinking critically.
     
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  4. everette

    everette 250+ Posts

    Population density is one thing. Also, it hit NY quickly, before individuals had a chance to take precautions. In TX, ppl had time to react.
     
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  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    You are not a real McCoy
     
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  6. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Honolulu is very densely populated too and very little cases. Explain that.
     
  7. MajesticII

    MajesticII 1,000+ Posts

    Island ? Climate ? People wash hands more ?
     
  8. everette

    everette 250+ Posts

    Combination of both plus more ppl coming in by planes, trains, and automobiles, etc.
     
  9. Dionysus

    Dionysus Idoit Admin

    Or healthy people generally?
     
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  10. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    So how will that be repeated by playing football?
     
  11. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 5,000+ Posts

    They are still locked down and extending lock down.
    Also, it is an island.
    A little easier to control traffic in and out.
    NY is the traffic hub of the US.
    I would imagine the virus was streaming in there from all over the world before they even started to battle it.
     
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  12. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    One of the next things to watch will be if specific conferences approve their football programs returning to practice or even just athletic training. Any perceived competitive advantages will immediately stoke new pressures within other conferences to return. For now...this is just about facilities reopening for voluntary workouts...

    SEC sets May 22 vote on athletic facility openings
     
  13. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Based on what I have observed from the college aged kids who have returned home in the last week, 50% will test positive for antibodies by Sept 1.
     
  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
  15. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    Just one of many views/ideas for fans being floated out there right now. This one from Dan Patrick (Lt. Gov not ESPN lol).

    Texas Lt. Gov. makes proposal for spectators when sports resume

    Many plans and ideas out there right now but as we draw closer the details/realities/challenges of implementing procedures if fans are to be allowed will become more evident.

    Totally guessing here, but in the case of NCAA, I think you are going to see alot of governors leave it up to the school/county/municipality and, in the case of Austin, wouldn't surprise me a bit if we have no fans at DKR to start season. The fact that most of the discussion is starting to shift from if play will occur to "what about fans" says alot.

    Seems at this point with NCAA saying they will not dictate and a growing chorus leaning towards a season that there will be NCAA football of some kind...just maybe not for all programs. Seems the real test of timing will be when athletes return for conditioning and practice and the cooperation/coordination with opponents from schools or programs not as enthusiastic to field teams.

    Will be real interesting to see if the athletes themselves start breaking ranks or what influence their desire or lack of desire to play factors...already seeing this in NBA regarding the current season. Wouldn't surprise me to see pressure from athletes and even some transfers from programs/conferences that choose not to play and wouldn't surprise either to see a few athletes scared to return...though I'll bet the former is more prevalent.
     
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  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The chance of an American under 24 dying from the virus (less than 1 in 1M) is less than the odds of dying from lighting (1 in 700,000)

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    (Even the under 54 group has a relatively low risk)

    Lightning facts Flash Facts About Lightning
     
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  17. LAGA4

    LAGA4 500+ Posts

    It's my understanding that there will be an announcement from the UIL about Texas HS football on Monday.
    Any HS coaches on the board here with any info on that?
     
  18. I_Dont_Exist

    I_Dont_Exist 1,000+ Posts

    Not a coach but my guess would be no season. Seems early to decide but I'm not expecting football this year except for the NFL.



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  19. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Only thing I like about Patrick’s plan is that there are people working on some plans. My very selfish attitude is that if they are playing and I have season tickets, plus the donation, I want to be there, period. How many season ticket holders this year? Maybe they should all get in but no single tickets. See, I admit my selfishness.
     
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  20. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Bigger problem I see than seating are areas like the Terrace club, etc. those places are elbow to elbow. No way that will go on,,,,,,so refund?
     
  21. KBBAKER

    KBBAKER 500+ Posts

    FWIW....

    My opinion is whether it's Disney World, a sporting event, or a concert, I say you open it up 100% (with or without masks), or you keep it closed. Some things are not meant to operate at reduced capacity.
     
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  22. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    Going to be an interesting barometer/indicator of just how powerful sport is in this country as this all plays out.
     
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  23. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    People who have antibodies should be able to show up.
     
  24. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I still say season ticket holders get one game attendance, thus 1/6 full.
     
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  25. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Except now they are saying they are seeing people with antibodies are getting sick again. They are researching to see if it is a relapse or a mutant strain.

    The authorities have kept us down since mid-march (~2 months). That is about all the American people will take before calling BS on the whole deal. Short of martial law, I don't know how California is going to keep people bottled-up until the end of August like their current Order says. However, it is going to take at least 2 more 14-day cycles to see where we stand. Any decisions about the fall made before 01 July may have to be changed.
     
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  26. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    This is pure speculation. There are some folks who likely tested positive for the virus (not antibodies) when in fact they were negative due to false test and then getting sick.
     
  27. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    No these were known cases who had been treated for the disease.
     
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  30. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    South Korea is only marginally better at the real truth than North Korea. However, thanks for proving my point:

    "I recently recovered from Covid-19. Does that mean I can’t get it again?
    Most scientists say that people who have had Covid-19 gain some immunity to the virus that causes it. What they don’t know is whether that protection lasts a few months, a few years or a lifetime."
     

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