Coronavirus

I got firewalled so I can only speculate as to what the Stanford professor said.

When the “Wuhan Virus of 2020“ — and let’s hope it’s only “2020“ — is no longer massively disruptive, this pandemic may well be the most analyzed global event in at least the past three centuries. In 2070, long after most of us have passed, this event and the responses to it by governments will still be hotly debated.

It’s so easy to Monday Morning Quarterback, even now, and the usual suspects love to do it. They bring no value, just criticism.

We still don’t know what we don’t know. As of today, May 24th, we may only be in the 2nd or 3rd inning of this game.

Here’s what I think as of today. Frankly, as more information and data is revealed, my opinion and the opinions of others may change.

We Weren’t Prepared

While that is true, who can we blame? Bush, Obama, Cuomo, Trump? Should we have made it a national priority to be prepared for this pandemic? Sure. But because there was not motivation on either side of the aisle, I guess everyone is guilty, or guiltless. Then again, who could have anticipated what China did...and didn’t do?

The First Casualty of War is Information

This has been true in spades. Again, no one is guiltless, but some seem to be more guilty than others. I believe that Cuomo — a likable bureaucrat — fits into that category.

The WHO is simply a front for the CCP and of course, they were complicit. But I have also been underwhelmed by the CDC to the extent that their ineptitude was obvious. Hopefully major changes will be made when this is over.

We Had To Lockdown

Even if most of the models were off — some like Neil Ferguson’s being absurd, we could only go with the available information at the time.

I believe that the lockdown probably saved tens of thousands of lives, as did the decision to cut off travel from China & Europe. For me the question is not whether or not there should have been a lockdown. The question is, should it have been nation wide, and should it have lasted as long as it has (did)?

All Countries Are Not The Same

In my judgment, being lost in the Swedish model argument is the cultural component. A huge factor is the extent to which Sweds and Germans engage with each other (as in proximity & greetings) as compared to the residents of say Italy, Spain, Brazil and the USA.

There is a reason why many believe that Scandinavian folks are “cold,” and Italians & Mexicans are warm. As if to validate this observation, I once asked a number of employees on an international cruise to rate the friendliness of passengers from various countries. The least likable were from, you guessed it, places like Denmark, Sweden & Germany. The friendliest? The USA, Italy, Spain and a few other obvious choices.

I don’t believe that the Swedish model would work here because of our culture. But I can see how it would work there.

The Mask Debacle

For my money, the one aspect of the response so far that is the most problematic is the mask issue. There is no doubt (OK, in my mind) that masks make a difference, and they protect “the other person” more than they do the wearer. As I have said, if this wasn’t true than why does every surgeon wear one in every operation? (And it’s not an N95.)

The misinformation about masks has been a tragedy. I understand why the Task Force, CDC & Surgeon General discouraged their use until some time in April, but the result has been devastating. The public has reason not to believe that they work, and an excuse not to believe what they are told by those in charge.

The Obvious

None of this would have happened, and the discussion would not be taking place had China been a responsible citizen of the world, been transparent, and stopped the pandemic before it started. This is 100% on China and I pray that this global tragedy marks the beginning of the end of our dependence on and massive engagement with China. It should.

 

The only thing she has going for her is that she was hot when she was young, and nobody knew what a raging dumbass she was back then either.

 

100% effective.

 

When % positive is <5%, it’s over.

 

We doubled testing in a month (from 225k to 450k). Where is the celebration?

 

This Corona virus is following the same lifetime of the first SARS epidemic. This SARS-CV-2 is more virulent and dangerous but following the same path to end more or less in June.

 

Also, studies are coming out showing some people are immune to COVID without even being infected due to immunity built up to other corona viruses from cold and other respiratory infections.

That means herd immunity could happen at as low as 15-20% infected and recovered of COVID-19.

 

I hate to admit it, but for a chick who's pushing 50, she's still pretty hot. And she's still a raging dumbass with no integrity.

 

Ironically enough, the VS masks costs 4X as much

 

That's bc you imagine her as a still foto, not speaking. But try and imagine her instead sitting next to you talking 'woke' politics non-stop all day and night, actual verbal diarrhea. Still hot?

 

Stanford's Michael Levitt, who won a Nobel in Chemistry, says the lockdown saved no lives and may have cost them
Lockdown saved no lives and may have cost them, Nobel Prize winner believes

 

Ready for the liberals to pounce on the Muslims

 

Don't tell me what to do.

 

CNN is just low.
On their coverage of President Trump at Arlington they have placed a graphic to the the right of pandemic cases and deaths.

 

I can't help but laugh that Trump gets the blame for the stupidity of the blue state governors.

 

Comments from Yoram Lass who is ex-Dir Israel's Health Ministry on the cornoavirus

 

More from Lass

 

JoeFan, that is the scary thing to me about the government reaction to corona virus. They have found a justification for shutting people in their homes, stopping religious gatherings, and shutting businesses down, in a way where people don't protest but cheer. We as a nation have celebrated our staying home and covering our faces. Without thinking about the suicide, depression, joblessness, homelessness that comes from the government's actions.

There are some skeptics out there who are thinking critically about the situation. For them I am thankful. But you still have Dr. Birx on TV today telling people to masks on the beach and to stay a minimum of 6 ft away. She doesn't even hint at being aware of the studies of discussing if/how the infection passes outside.

We have Travis Co. saying they are forced to close parks because the citizens didn't "maintain safe distances from each other". "Forced" is the word they use, putting the blame on people. The fact that they all went out to parks and were in close contact shows that they valued being at the park more than social distancing. Anyone who valued social distancing more would have already left.

This shows the government shows partiality to one type of person, the scared or antisocial, and stands against those who are more social or less worried about infection. That is how central planning creates "us" vs "them" and justifies harming "them" in order to protect "us".

It is also injustice, making laws that aren't general enough to treat each person as equal. It is equal in that each person has to stay 6 ft away from others, no exceptions, but it is unequal in that it legalizes the interactions of people in a public park and shows preference for one type of person over the other.

No one wants to be murdered, stolen from, lied to, or cheated on, but a great many people legitimately differ on how close they stand to other people in a public place.

 

Haha. I stole this for my FB page.

 

If true it's an activated carbon pouch form fitted to her face. I want to know where she got it and see a receipt. In other words, I think she is a lying dog-faced pony soldier.

 

Of course the dog is a cocker spaniel.

 

Nope. Only hot with her mouth shut.

 

Well, shut or maybe full of something so she can't speak...if you know what I mean.

 

According to Fox News, over 63 million unemployed Americans now make more on unemployment than they did working, thanks to handouts from Uncle Sam. We’re expanding the welfare state exponentially not to mention Creating lots of New Democrats.

 

Mon, I made a similar observation a few weeks ago and was ridiculed for it. Oh well.

I am hopeful that indeed this pandemic could be over well before most experts are predicting. The truth of the matter is that we just don’t know. The course these viruses take is an unknown commodity.

Not to turn this to politics but for all of his faults, and he has many, Trump’s intuition is like no one I have ever seen. It seems as though almost every “outlandish comment” he has made comes true or is later proven to be true.

He said in January or February that this virus might just go away in the summer. If it does, I wonder if the MSM, in addition to calling him racist, misogynist, and everything but a white man, will add “Nostradamus the Second” to the list?

 

No duke, all they will say is he ruined the economy with ‘his’ shutdown of the economy.

 

Very interesting perspective. My frustration is simply, where were all the naysayers in mid-March or on April 1st? Perhaps they were out there and Google banned them, but I doubt it.

I am in the “we need to open now” crowd, and I have been there for perhaps 2-3 weeks. Open “carefully.” But I just cannot get my head around the suggestion that our reaction to C-19 has been “much ado about nothing.”

I need to have a tooth implanted and the replacement has been ready for two months but the idea of having someone in my face for 30 minutes — even with all of the protections — is very uncomfortable for me. Is that irrational, and is my hesitation based on misinformation and is it an overreaction?

My neck has been stiff for weeks and I need to see the chiropractor. When I do, even with an N95 mask, he will be inches away from my face. I’m not ready to go there just yet. Is that irrational, and is my hesitation based on misinformation and is it an overreaction?

Perhaps I am wrong but my fears are based primarily on stories of individuals who I know and it scares the crap out of me. Some ordinary people go through hell — for weeks and weeks — when they contract this virus. By contrast, I don’t remember having anything other than a mild case of the flu — which resolved in about 24 hours — in perhaps a decade. But then again, I get a flu shot every year.

I’m hoping for/counting on one of two things happening. Either the virus weakens and dissipates this summer or the treatments advance quickly such that dealing with C-19 won’t be as bad as was the caer for those who contracted it in February, March & April.

 

Why do I have a feeling there's more to these stories than what LH is displaying here?

Reminder of Emmett Till? Why say dumb **** like that if you want to be taken seriously?