Houston Astros 2020 thread............

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by Joe Fan, Nov 1, 2019.

  1. n64ra

    n64ra 1,000+ Posts

    I read the 15 page report. The only useful part is how Watkins worked (pretty simple) and why it stopped for the 2018 post season and beyond (MLB sat in the replay room starting then). The remaining 14 pages are either a cover-up or joke.
    The most egregious reads as a 'why this isn't a big deal':
    Can you imagine if the Astros report said 'the information was only useful if the opposing team did not again change its sequence after the trash can bang passed along the information to players, and, only then, if the batter heard the bang before the pitch, understood the bang's meaning, and had time to swing.'
    The second worse is
    along with
    So where's the punishment for Cora or O'Halloran?
    Oh. I thought the players were employees?
     
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    RIP Bob Watson, and "let them play"

     
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  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Just an odd Bob Watson story

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  7. Joe Fan

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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The best games by 1 batter for every club

    ASTROS: Jeff Bagwell -- June 24, 1994 vs. Dodgers
    In the midst of his MVP season, Bagwell went 4-for-5 with a club-record-tying three homers off three different pitchers in a 16-4 win over the Dodgers in the Astrodome. He’s one of only four players in Astros history to have 13 total bases in one game, along with Morgan Ensberg (May 15, 2005), Lee May (June 21, 1973) and Joe Morgan (July 8 1965).

    The three homers came in a span of three innings, including a pair of homers in a nine-run sixth in which Bagwell became the 28th player to homer twice in one inning. Bagwell hit a towering one-out, solo homer to left field off Ramon Martinez in the sixth, and later in that frame homered off Rudy Seanez, a three-shot into the Astros’ bullpen in right. Bagwell’s third homer came off lefty Brian Barnes in the eighth.

    “It’s my biggest night ever,” Bagwell said after the game. “I mean, I hit three home runs in college, but what’s that, against the University of Richmond? This is the big leagues.”

    Bagwell hit .368 with 39 homers and 116 RBIs in only 110 games that season, breaking his hand just before baseball went on strike. -- Brian McTaggart


     
  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Max Scherzer makes it sound like there will be no pro baseball at all, over money of course

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    Last edited: May 28, 2020
  10. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    No baseball then and public sentiment will be on MLB's side. This has the potential to break the Union.
     
  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    But the sports media these days is 100% pro player
     
  12. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Greed preventing games to be played trumps the media.
     
  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Boras waddled into the middle of it

     
  14. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Ha! All so they can overpay for talent.
     
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  15. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    I haven't watched a regular season MLB game in person or on TV since 1994 when the last strike happened. I used to be a nut, tracked stats, watched games daily, etc. At the time I was struggling making $5/hr barely making rent and it just left a sour taste so I have zero interest anymore. Both sides have every right to negotiate, but they need to do a better job of what goes out into the media instead of fighting the battle through the media. Hell, they won't even meet to discuss this.

    If the millionaires and billionaires don't stop fighting about money in public in the middle of a time when so many have no money then end up not having a season because of money, they will turn off a lot more fans like me and will seriously hurt the MLB. I really don't care if MLB even exists after this year, but I find it hilarious how stupid these people are about their fights.
     
  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    MLB has screwed the pooch.
    The should have begun second Spring Training by June 1 and be playing games this month, in time for a fun July 4 period full of baseball.
    But, instead, the players and their agents are fighting with the owners over money.
    This while the rest of the country is struggling with this virus and their jobs and so forth.
    It's a bad look.
     
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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    We had a situation in Houston the other day where ~60,000 protesters/rioters were crammed in front of City Hall all together at street level
    MMP only seats ~43,000 and it is spread over 5 different levels but there is still no baseball
    Weird times
     
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  19. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Not weird Joe - just two greedy groups who could care less about the fans trying to extract all they can from the other side.
     
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This was the first-ever Major League postseason game played in Houston.

     
  22. Joe Fan

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  23. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    As sad as the ultimate outcomes in 1980 and 1986 were for Houston, those two Series were, for a long time, the greatest in post-season history.

    Still won't forgive Knepper for blowing that lead but, damn...Puhl was a beast in those five games...
     
  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The umps actually blew the second out of a double play that would have gotten Knepper off the hook. Keith Hernandez slapped his leg with his left hand knowing the 1st base ump was watching for the foot on the bag, while listening for the sound of the ball hitting the glove. He got duped. Still photos the next day show he was safe by a pretty wide margin. Run scores, game over right there.
     
  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The Yankees, of course, got special protection
    And Manfred was in on the fix

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  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    As a reminder --

    2017 home-road splits
    :
    Jose Altuve:
    Home - .311/.371/.463
    Road - .381/.449/.633

    Aaron Judge:
    Home - .312/.440/.725
    Road - .256/.404/.531

    Career home-road splits:
    Jose Altuve:
    Home - .310/.364/.464
    Road - .319/.363/.462

    Aaron Judge:
    Home - .315/.433/.647
    Road - .233/.355/.472
     
  27. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    MLB scapegoated the Astros (thanks to Fiers)
    Questionable use of Technology? Blame it on the Astros
    Juiced baseball ? Blamed on Rawllings in 2019
    Juiced players? Blamed on Bonds, McGwire and Sosa
    Drug use (cocaine and amphetamines)? Blamed on the 1985 Pittsburgh Pirates
    It's what MLB does, they find a scapegoat and sweep the rest of it under the rug. MLB itself never bears responsibility for anything.



     
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2020
  28. Joe Fan

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  29. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    Agree. This is me in Feb:

     
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    They used to make fun of MMP

     

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