Eagles Requesting Campus Changes

Academics...none were taking easy anything...

 

I am trying to be woke. Is my avatar or HornFans name triggering anyone?

 

Your last sentence suggests that blacks should be dependent on government, society to equalize those numbers. And that's the real root issue. Only blacks can equalize those numbers by making the EFFORT required to go to college, get a degree and EARN a great living. That certainly includes being a present father, responsible mothers, delaying gratification, staying off drugs, not committing crime, sticking to a tough job, saving, and most important, not believing the lies pushed to keep them down and voting democratic.

I've been in the business world a long time and know a whole lot of business owners and top execs. Nearly all of them would love to hire a black person but they can't find qualified candidates, or when they do the person won't stay on the job.

I was taught no matter what obstacles life throws at you, it's just another opportunity to overcome. When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Life is about overcoming obstacles. And that's the case for all races except the white elite that make up less 5% of the population. I can guarantee you it's tougher for poor whites than poor blacks because I've been around both enough to know.

So even if systemic racism did exist (and I've been around long enough know that's ridiculous), so what? Why not decide I'm not going to let anything hold me back? I'm not going to let anyone or anything keep me down? I'm going to make something of my life and be successful regardless of what obstacles are thrown at me?

There's 2 types of people in this country. One finds an excuse and the other finds a way to succeed.

 

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I can only imagine your response if anyone answered yes.

 

I grew up in Pasadena, aka Pasa-Get-Down-Dena, or “Stinkadena” as it was known back in the day (thanks Goodyear plant). I remember as a little kid we would drive down Red Bluff Road on our way to Hwy 225 going to my grandmother’s house in Crockett.

On Red Bluff Road there was a funny named little building that I asked my dad about one time — the building had the name Ku Klux Klan on it, and I had never seen that name anywhere. I don’t recall how my dad explained it to me at the time but I was very young.

Needless to say, Pasadena was not a popular destination for blacks. I never even met a black person until I was in high school when three black guys enrolled in my senior year. As you might expect, some pretty unfriendly talk started going around about these new students. But then something surprised me: for every racist comment there was probably five other kids telling them to STFU and be cool. These new kids were embraced and welcomed by the vast majority of students, even to the point of some of them just daring someone to try and make a problem. We had more than a few redneck types in Pasadena! But most of them turned out to side against the overtly racist students.

I didn’t appreciate the impact of that at the time but later on I did.

 

I was involved in a bar fight and ended up at the Rockport Sheriffs office with a large group of people.
They didn't have enough room so the sheriff sat me at his desk to write a statement.
As I was writing I looked up and saw a cartoon on the wall of a black man tied to chair taking a beating from to laughing officers.
I continued to look up and there were three white "K's" descending at an angle down the wall.
I wrote fast and got the hell out of there.

 

Just curious. What year was that?

 

I remember that building too. Actually went in it once out of curiousity, but we were not well received. Must have been the hair and Zippy the Pinhead T shirt.

 

For years if you ever took 146 down to Galveston, by San Leon at the 517 intersection was an auto shop with a big sign that read:

"Kountry Kar Kare"

I couldn't believe how blatant it was and it persisted probably until about 10 years ago.

 

This is not meant to be offensive or intrusive
Moon are you Black?

 

Not sure if this was posted anywhere..
Texas president, AD, players meet on diversity

 

I missed the part on whether the president washed the feet of the players. It was a good sign that the president wants to hear from other groups, not just the football players.

What if after the singing of the Eyes, there is a simple chant of “Black Lives Matter”? People are free to say it or not. Of course that politicizes athletic events, which opens the flood gates for other political causes. Thus, I am betting something like this will be proposed by the admin and student body.

 

Does the diversity thing mean there needs to be more white players on the football and basketball teams? And vice versa with swimming, golf, etc.? How will that work?

 

"But progress has been made" how does this sentence suggest that blacks should rely on anyone other than themselves to improve their economic or educational status?

 

Years ago....the ONE black girl trying out for cheerleader had been cheerleader the year before and elected by the identical group of pro judges... I knew her, liked her, thought she was great....well, there were only 5 gals back then....(slightly after the Pleistocene Era) so the competition of 367 girls going after 5 spots is keen....she lost by a very very close margin because she fell out of her partner stunt and everyone else was perfect...
Two days later several people on the squad called me saying she'd gone to the black players and they were going to the media and NAACP if they didn't put her on the squad.. she was discriminated against....(by the identical Judges that had elected her the year before....)

 

Wow. So, what happened after that?

 

I was asked represent the cheerleaders and go to Ron Brown, Dean...PRESIDENT of Texas Exes was a friend and I asked him to go and he was absolutely perfectly eloquent in his addressing the issue...
She was put on and in the Fall held mini tryout and the one blackck freshman was selected...

 

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My last partner seen in my avatar had suffered the IDENTICAL circumstances 5 years prior...she had been cheerleader for two years and lost out in a very very slim race....she was just left with her freckles and BEAUTIFUL red hair...and of course was devastated....

 

ALL OF THE ABOVE...

 

I'm not sure, but I am sure that they, along with a host of other groups, certainly seem to think government is the answer for virtually everything.

 

Only my heart.

 

I disagree.
Certainly in this instance they are only asking for equal treatment fron the police and criminal justice system.
They aren't asking for handouts.
Just wanting to live without fear.

 

I had to look up woke a few days ago to see what it meant. I am still sleepy.

 

Well Rain basically answered it for me. I read it as relying on someone, something else other than blacks themselves making the progress by legislation, etc., other than "blacks have made progress". That has never worked for any race and it never will. Every race that's been discriminated against has evened the playing field by changing their behavior, earning respect and showing they deserve to be treated equally.

I would even say Asians have even exceeded that standard. They have a lower crime rate than whites, higher education level on average and make more $. Talk about discrimination, just look at what the Japanese have done. They were put in internment camps, treated absolutely horribly yet have never let discrimination hold them back. From what I've seen in documentaries and read about that time, they never claimed discrimination, they only asked, "just look at my character and behavior and I'll show you what type of person I am". And where are they today? For the most part held in higher regard than the average white person.

 

What about this compromise for The Eyes?

'Eyes of Texas' compromise: Babers proposes 'Julius Whittier Section'

 

We may still disagree, Moon, but I wasn't referring to handouts or the like. I'm talking about the mentality in our country that looks to some form of government as the answer. Handouts aside, I still believe the general mentality of many groups in our country, including minority groups, is to look there, or at least to an extension of government of some kind (court system aside), to right perceived wrongs or as a means of improving life.
If it is equality you are fighting for, government can't and won't effectively provide it.

 

The founders themselves had the wisdom and foreknowledge to grasp the limitations and dangers of government and warn against its pitfalls and the ineffectiveness (and counterproductive nature) of it for many things.
I have a very good friend who is Hispanic and we discuss how these pitfalls are, sadly, catching many of the growing Hispanic population off guard and how many of them are being fooled for lack of understanding of what made this country once so great - and what types of things undermine that hope and, dare I say, promise.

 

100% correct, but if you try to tell a liberal or a minority that they will throw "racist" at you or worse, "You don't know what its like to be a minortiy." The reply then should be," No but I see what it is to be lazy or break the law, and that is the only thing holding minorities back, or getting them into trouble in this great country of ours !!! "Those monorities who do work hard and are good citizens are very successful, and aren't in jail."....

 

In the first discussions of the ‘demands’ I thought the naming of a section of DKR was definitely doable. If Babers suggestion could work to save the Eyes, or is necessary to save the Eyes I’m for it. Seems like a positive and creative idea to me.

 

Know what REALLY angers me? The University always goes to current students who have an average of two years invested when considering changes that affect future and past graduates of the school. These current students are always the focus. As alumni who spent 4-6 years on campus and have represented and donated to this school for 4-60 years, you don’t count for sh-t.

My class ring was the old traditional ring. All of us born in B.C. have this ring. Everything on it was symbolic and people always comment on how it is a special ring. Those who do not know the history of the traditional ring should look it up. There were several companies making the ring. The company who made mine went out of business and they sold the mold to another company that made a new one for me for $30 with trade of my old damaged ring. If I lose this one, or break it, I cannot get another. The company told me that the University has blocked them from making it. (I assume that goes for other vendors as well.) One of the student groups several years back wanted to go Aggie. One ring with a new design, to include the tower. An ugly design with controlled distribution. I like mine better. But who am I. Perhaps some day a group of UT darlings will partition to change the name to the University of Austin Cows. After all Texas was a slave state and Longhorns are symbolic of post Civil War Texas.

So here is my vote. If you do not have the stones to stand up to the incorrigibles, please call the 2020 season. I know, I don’t matter. Perhaps my money does.

Anybody want to buy a statue?