Snyder Finally Giving in on Changing Team's Name

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  1. Giovanni Jones

    Giovanni Jones 2,500+ Posts

    How about "Texas F--- Yeah!"
    Can't imagine that anyone would be offended by that.
     
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  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    That'll piss off woke white people who think it pisses off Latinos.
     
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  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I think they're supposed to kneel.
     
  4. HornDawg1957

    HornDawg1957 100+ Posts

    Somebody on Facebook said that they should make Planters their corporate sponsor, make Mr. Peanut the logo, and become the Washington Redskin Peanuts.
     
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  5. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Quit politicizing sports. Singing the anthem politicized the event. Because it was already politicized, Kaepernick injected his politics into it. The only solution is to end the politicization. Sing a team song or just play a game that EVERYBODY can enjoy.
     
  6. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 2,500+ Posts

    Fvck the NFL. Don't care what they sing, I won't watch a second of it. They can all pound sand in hell for all I care.

    This goes for any sport that bends to these pricks. The NBA is also dead to me. Greg Pop-a-zit can screw himself. I'll never follow the Spurs again as long as he is there.
     
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  7. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    Interesting. So your take is that using the pregame for a few minutes of patriotism is political. I’ll have to think about that. Is the flag political?

    See, I think of patriotism as a shared value, such that in a large group you know for a fact that many or most of us disagree strongly about the identity and definition of problems and solutions. Still, for a bit, we remind ourselves that with respect to being Americans, we have that in common, and we desire unity. We are willing for a moment to sing with those who disagree with us.
    When and how did that become political? I interpret Kaepernick’s actions to be, “I do not share that common ground, and my political views must continue to be expressed— no, amplified—during the time everyone else agrees to set them aside for 90 seconds. Because my issues are more important than everyone else’s— indeed more important than whether the barely surviving ties that bind the country hold out.”
     
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  8. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    The ‘National’ Anthem is only political when one group hates America and resents all it stands for and another group loves it.
     
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  9. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    It's the NFL. I don't care.
     
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  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Will they stand for that then kneel for the real anthem?

    It has reached a point where the more courageous and controversial act is to stand
     
  11. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    You make good points. But singing an anthem is a political act. It is a small one, but still one. It can be a unifying act if everyone is of the same mind. We aren't in the US. It can also be a tool to convince people to comply with the government. A type of soft propaganda to make people less likely to criticize the government, less likely to demand their rights as citizens.

    When Kaepernick kneeled, he was expressing his disagreement. I thought he had the right to express that even though I don't agree with his view point. If everyones' views are on equal footing then people should be allowed to sing or not sing, stand or sit or kneel, as long as no one is disrupting or harming someone else. If we don't allow that then we are just trying to force others to do what we want them to do. We are requiring that they comply with what we want. I just want to enjoy football.
     
  12. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    I think that’s the pledge, the anthem is just that; an anthem.
     
  13. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    We may not disagree on much as for this issue. I certainly don't think people should be made to stand or sing. I also agree that someone can kneel or whatever, as a right or privilege. It still is obnoxious, and self-centered, and deliberately divisive--in my opinion. Then, a separate issue is whether an employer can expect simple standing for the anthem so as NOT to make things political.

    BTW, if I recall, Kaepernick at the beginning was not kneeling, but just sitting on the bench. Then, Nate Boyer met with him and suggested that at least he should kneel, showing some respect, although still deliberately deviating from the tradition. I do think that was an improvement, but by then, most people had chosen their talking point positions anyway.
     
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  14. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I am with you on this. I don't like people kneeling during the anthem. But they don't like something about standing and singing. I think they are wrong, but it would be better to tolerate each other, respect those differences. The NFL could make this much simpler by requiring players to stand. Or they could keep players in the locker room during the anthem, etc. But the NFL and most large corporations are "woke". So they aren't going to help with this issue.

    You are correct. That is why I wasn't that upset about the kneeling. He was being more respectful by kneeling instead of sitting on the bench. It was at least to show that he respected his teammates and others.

    I think part of the reason he radicalized is because of how crazy people responded to kneeling. It was supported whatever bias he had against America. He probably felt misunderstood too, which just fueled his desire to make a further statement.
     
  15. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    People in the stands can do this all they want and nobody will care. It's different when you are making your employer look bad. The NFL told Tim Tebow to knock it off when he was kneeling in prayer, why then allow Kaepernick his show? When they told the Dallas Cowboys, who I have never been a fan of, that they could not put a sticker on their helmets to honor the 5 Dallas PD who were killed by a BLM sniper, that's when I left them and I have never looked back. Their position on Kaepernick has only further highlighted their hypocrisy.
     
  16. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 2,500+ Posts

    F every grandstanding preening POS business and sport that gives in to these terrorist and extortionist. I've got a list a mile long of places that will no longer get my money. I have a list of actors I will no longer watch their movies and TV shows.

    If/When Trump wins, we will have a full blown Civil War on our hands. It's going to get ugly folks.
     
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  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Jayson Whitlock! (of all people)

     
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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    That one is so good, here is another by Whitlock from a year ago about Nike

     
  19. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Wow
    I take back any insults ever aimed at Jason.
    He explains it . I hope the woke people don't try to destroy him
     
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  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
  21. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Lean on Me? Good song but an anthem? They must be kidding.
     
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  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The Onion is still around

     
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  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
  24. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

  25. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    A national anthem that isn't even about the nation at issue?
     
  26. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    The Onion became obsolete once Babylon Bee started.
     
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