California to allow NCAA athletes to make money This equates to much more then a stipend. Schools will be forced to join a newly created classification - one where top talent goes to highest bidder. I’m with the NCAA on this one, if they can shut this down.
My simple mind says.. The NCAA will simply stiff arm university programs that sign on to this deal. USC, ucla etc will be banned from bowls and natty tournaments. My wrong minded self says... Cali and other state programs that sign on to this will begin their own "league" Common sense says... Let it play out. Lot of cards haven't been laid yet
Is there anyone who has any confidence that the NCAA will have a coherent, clear, logical response to this? I don’t. I bet they have had their head in the sand hoping this would go away.
I’m waiting for the pending explosion that will be SabreHorn’s take... But, even though the NCAA is inept and toothless, this situation is extraordinarily challenging. No doubt they have been aware of it.
Im just pissed at the media folks who all seem to want this such they only talk about innoncent little promotions for burger joints, for example, completey ignoring how this can be abused to pay players to go to school x vs y. I also dont like how proponents of any type of paying college athletes scheme will never acknowledge what said athletes are already getting: 1) Relaxed admission standards 2) Free tuition 3) Free room and board 4) Free tutoring and other academic assistance 5) Enhanced status as a student We are already paying college athletes.
Duke, It's Cali-prune-ya and won't take affect until 2013. Media is so overwhelmingly ignorant, has anyone considered that Florida will beat the West Coast to the punch, and Florida has much more credibility?
I don't either. They don't. They might. They ought to, really, because look at this thing.... 5* recruit 'so-and-so' has offers from everyone in the country, but only playing in Cali can he make real $ with endorsements, likeness, etc. It's an unfair advantage in recruiting unless your state also follow suit. Well... and the schools aren't going to go along with this either. Yes, let's let the NCAA penalize us in an ultimately financial way so that a small handful of Johnny Athletes in the state can be millionaires before they leave campus. I'm not seeing that. Pales in comparison, unfortunately, to the upside. Let's roll back to 2005... would Reggie Bush, Vince Young, Leinart, et all have had endorsement deals of some kind coming into that game? Yes, almost certainly. The year before? Yes, that too. 1-5 are worth chump change in comparison I reckon, especially when your career has pro $ upside so that class / academics are just an inconvenience. It's either that and you 'break' the system of college athletics....or....the other states of the union go along with it and it's a race where you don't want to be last. End game is status quo : players get paid under the limited circumstances they can be and college athletics functions as it did. Academics and the notion of the student athlete mean even less than they do now. Great.
Except now Florida is talking about instituting something for next year. The NCAA better deal with this now or they risk becoming irrelevant. I used to be 100% against any kind of player payments, but I listened to Rod Babers go on a rant about how he had zero money in college and couldn't even order in pizza if he wanted to. They either need to institute some kind of new jobs rule or allow a small type of compensation for the players to have some pocket cash. I couldn't imagine going thru four years of school without ever having any money because the NCAA said so.
Something tells me rod babers had some walking around money if he wanted. Oh, if there was only an asst coach to go to for such requests....
A bunch of disparate court opinions would have the same effect and even further the likelihood Congress will intervene
Big money schools in big markets could make this work, maybe. The starting center for Abilene Christian will not get much. My guess is it will be a death sentence to a lot of football programs. The NFL needs to stop using college football as their minor league and let those in it for money go to an NFL minor league out of high school. MLB does it and the NFL needs to pony up the money and stop using the colleges. Perhaps we could get back to REAL college student athletes. Rah! Rah!
Y'all realize that this isn't the NCAA's first trip down this road. The initial attempt was a local ad in Houston featuring a Rice football player (TE IIRC). As I recall, the kid wasn't after the cash, but they denied his right to do the ad.
I don't know why it should hurt, say, Texas State or Alcorn State etc....every once in a while a smaller college guy makes it to the NFL but.....
Yep! This is Pandora's box the are opening. Too many moving parts in this. But if it goes through, in far future off seasons, programs might even be able to trade players. The probability of that actually happening is extremely remote.
Although I have mixed feelings about the kids being able to benefit from image products, jerseys etc. I cannot help but think this is potential catastrophe. I think so especially if it passes with only a few States, ie, the NCAA melts down with it’s response.
I didn't say it was equal, just that it is not true that college athletes are being paid nothing for their services.
Back in the day there was what was called laundry money and it would get you a few burgers. Here is the problem with this money issue. Too many programs cannot fill up the stadium on game day, and that inclues most of the programs. SMU built a small stadium and they can’t fill it up. When you add a player pay burden to football, which is the biggest revenue generator, you will have to do the same for all men’s and women’s programs (most of which are non-revenue sports), driving these schools deeper into the red sea of athletics. Along with the revenue advantage of football comes the baggage of higher costs, and so if the school needs to cut big costs that is the first place to look.. With a stipend AND player participation in self promotion of their brand, certain schools will get the best players and the other schools will suffer at the recruiting gates. As these programs suffer in recruiting their prgrams will get worse and the downward spiral will lead to the possible extinction of their football programs. As a result, there will be fewer opportunities for athletic scholarships. The kids lose. I think a well monitored summer job program is the answer. I worked summers at construction jobs and saved hard to get through the school year. A little hard work will do these darlings good. And anybody following the lead of the nuts in California needs to question their sanity,
If anyone believes there isn't an equivalent to BigRed motors in California, then they are delusional. Looking ahead...some recruit that is hyped and touted signs a deal with the large motor dealer that just happens to be owned by a booster. THEN comes the endorsement deal. This will make Dickerson's car pale by comparison...to say nothing of the balance of Pony Excess as well as the shenanigans north of the Red River.
If they are gonna do this, the least they could do IMO is make only Juniors and Seniors eligible. That might help with the recruiting angle.
Congress will have to act?! Really? I think I would sooner bet on NCAA. Congress is busy on matters of international importance. Can anybody spell title IX? Money has to come from somewhere, hence celebs are buying entrance to compete on non-existent rowing teams. Not popular, but follow the money comes to mind. Texas has plenty more $$ to pay than most schools, but it will ultimately end college football. Then the rowing teams will have to compete with badminton for athlete.
This law doesn't require schools to pay athletes. It allows student athletes to get paid through their likeness and such. The money would come from endorsements, autographs and gear. It wouldn't matter what school they attended since I assume it could come from any outside source, i.e. Nike, Under Armour, etc.
Not that easy military but you’re correct that the schools wouldn’t be costed, well not sure about jerseys. Like how would the coop work if it sold #11 jerseys, with or without Ellinger on the back?
WOW! Give Trey an invitation to Herman's next Mensa meeting. How many calls did this cretin make to confirm what 95% of college football fans have known this for several years, and what DKR & Coach Broyles put in motion 50 years ago? Surely he must have included Fenves in his research.
