Herman’s Press Conference 8-30

Was there a B12 media day?

 

Will there be a debate??

 

Anytime he speaks without shooting the bird or throwing fans under the bus is a success.

 

Thank you NR

 

Tom thanks, praises and says that “all things about the program are about the players“. He never mentions the fans. In his eyes they appear to be irrelevant. Perhaps he thinks they are a bunch of whores to the scoreboard. Just give them wins and they will hang around.
Maybe an AD can school him on fan appreciation. After all, the AD position is one of a business manager and fans are a source of revenue. No fan revenue, no...............? Tom does not have to like the fans, but a “thanks for the cash” now and then would be nice. Or maybe a “we want to have a good program for our fans“. You know, those buying the tickets, funding the foundation and purchasing all that shi- with the steer on it. He can still have his disdain for, well, uh, you guys.
I personally don’t give a damn.

 

Its all a smokescreen,He doesnt care about anything except himself. He has to fool the players he cares so they will win. Then he can move on to more money and greener pastures. He doesnt intend to stay at Texas and could care less about fans or Texas. That is my opinion for what is worth.

 

It would be pretty awesome to see 50% or less attendance. The fans have become a commodity; a stipulation; something that is a given and can be pushed around and manipulated.

Not me.

Are we missing something here? Why did Tom get the job? Because it's about the players? The wins? The fans? The money? Did all the other coaches not make it about the players and only about the fans? What is he talking about?

 

Damn I miss DeLoss and Mack

 

Just remember...with Mack, you ALSO had to deal with GDGD

 

Yea there is that
But both DeLoss abd Mack went out if their way to make all fans feel wecome and appreciated.
CDC is amazing and goes out of his way to show appreciation for us .
Herman?
What does he have against fans?

 

I'm for one still on board with TH, and I think offering him our support and faith is wise; but he certainly is no mensa if he cannot figure out he has missed the mark with a large portion of the fanbase, realize the importance of not making that error, and begin to take intentional steps immediately to remedy some of it. And if I were CDC, I'd be all on that...over it^^^^^^.

 

Not questioning his intelligence or MENSA, and I shall not question his common sense until he gets some.

 

What is CDC going to do? He has too much money on Herman now! With the way money is drying up this year,he has no choice but to suck it up. Get use to it. If Herman loses we will still be stuck with him just like Shaka.

 

We don't belong to Mensa.

 

I back Herman, completely. There are no perfect head coaches though, apparently, some here demand that level of perfection. This season will no doubt be a challenge on many fronts but, you know what, I’m betting TH will come through and succeed to silence his detractors. Sticking with that theme I’m predicting a substantial crow eating thread come the new year.

 

We already have one of those.

The eating crow thread

 

I can appreciate your love, but it is a one way street.

I won’t need to eat crow because I am not saying that he won’t win. In fact, considering what he inherited, I think he has done pretty good.

 

I would love to be wrong about Herman. I hope he wins and brings a B12 Title to Texas. We will see . When that happens I will eat crow because he wins. It still will not change how I feel about his character. Mack showed his love for Texas and the fans. Maybe it was his age or upbringing. Herman is immature and stuck on himself and shows it on every occasion.

 

I don't demand perfection, what I would like, for one of the highest paid coaches in college football is:

Better that 25-15 after 3 years
Better than 60.7% conference wins
Better than 1-4 against P5 out of conference opponents, regular season
Better than 1-3 against OU
Better than 3-7 against OU/OSU/TCU combined
More than zero conference championships after 3 years
Not having to score with 1 second left, to only lose to Baylor by 2 touchdowns, instead of 3. Baylor, a team that was what, 1-10 two seasons before?
Not having to kick a FG with 1 second left, to avoid losing, at home, to Kansas.
Not having the 107th ranked defense in college football.

The above are not high goals. No one has slammed Herman for not winning a national championship, or being Top 5. His claim to fame so far, as such, is three winning seasons and three bowl wins, which shows you how far the program sunk under the living joke that was the Charlie Strong Experience.

The Sugar Bowl was a great win, the Alamo Bowl was a good win. Al Bundy once scored 4 TD's in a single game too. Unless Texas is OK with turning into the Aggs, and hanging its hat on winning various random bowl games, nice at the time and quickly forgotten by the rest of college football, he needs to produce championships, beat OU / OSU / TCU more times than he loses, and bring Texas back into national significance.

Seemingly unlike the players, who are grown men yet need to "feel the love" and be told how great they are, I don't need a coach to say nice things about me. I need a coach that produces wins. So far that's not been accomplished. Will it this year - it should, OU is down on paper, so is TCU. Senior QB at Texas. If not this year, when? And possibly, who?

Also, compare and contrast Herman and Lincoln Riley from OU. Both have been there for 3 years. Riley is 36-6, with 3 conference championships, 3 playoff appearances, 2 Heisman winners, 3-1 against Texas, 3-0 against TCU, 3-0 against OSU. He took over a much better program than Herman did, no question, but he's accomplished great things, while Herman has two nice bowl wins.

If the coach of Texas can't compete with the accomplishments of the coach of OU, it's going to be time to find one who can.

 

Well duck, talk to me in January and we’ll see how your stats have changed

 

Otay, they’ll be substantial additions to that thread.

 

This is actually worse than the record against ou.

 

DKR quit, well because of the fans....

 

Now we have fans quitting because of the coach.

 

TH? I cannot even watch him anymore. The dude has completely lost me and so many others. And even with big wins, many of us will never respect him. Nor should we.

He just exudes arrogance and insincerity.

 

I thought DKR quit because of that cheating, spying Switzer.

 

Pretty big difference in what TH inherited and what LR inherited. We had just made a coaching change after 3 500 or below seasons. They had just come off an 11-2 season. They had Baker Mayfield, CeDe Lamb, Hollywood Brown. I mean trying to compare where the 2 programs have been over the last 3 years straight up is not exactly comparing apples to apples. LR is probably a better coach, but he sure had a lot more to work with too. Year 2 Texas beat OU and lost to them and beat UGA. Last year injuries derailed the season. I'm giving TH this season and barring covid challenges he needs to win. He goes 8-4 or worse and I'll jump on the TH sucks as a coach. Right now I think the jury is still out.

 

I respect you all, no joke.
But I don’t get the arrogance by TH. Nor do I get the lack of respect or lack appreciation for the fans some of you see.
I do disagree with the “we won’t let them date our daughters” or hire them.... but I took that as a statement for the USA not to us as UT fans.
I’m conservative, big time- 58 years old. I disagree with the hiring comment- but gents search your hearts he might be right about the dating. As a Christian I have to look deep into myself. I dunno, I don’t have a daughter.
He said we can disagree, but he also said players have a right to be heard.
I respect any leader who backs his team.
Im

 

Listened to a long conversation from Coach Royal after a golf tournament in The Woodlands. A few of us including Ray Poage were sitting out in the parking lot drinking free beer from someone's motorhome.

DKR said he quit because the HS kids were so different. To paraphrase and condense his statement, he said that Bevo, the Tower being orange, the traditions of The University of Texas meant little or nothing to "these kids". He didn't think he could relate or motivate them anymore, and questioned his ability to recruit.