Ginsburg

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  1. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

  2. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Of course Dems like Schumer and the usual suspects will wring their hands and gnash teeth saying exactly the opposite of their previously held positions on the appointment of a Justice in an election year, and the media will give them cover for it.

    Anyone expect anything different?
     
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  3. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    IiRC she was, like so many, sure Hillary was going to win she chose to wait so a woman POTUS could pick her successor
    RBG did not choose wisely. We will never know for sure
    but
    Her so called last wish is suspiciously worded
     
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  4. WillUSAF

    WillUSAF 500+ Posts

    Right or wrong, not only can you tell someone not to:
    be drunk, take illegal drugs, be a hooker, or walk around without a mask,
    you can actually take away their freedom if they do so.

    Not you as an individual can you take their freedom away. If someone wants to get drunk or high in their own time more power to them. Who cares!? Now if they get behind a wheel of a car or a motorcycle and hurt someone else that is a different story.

    Think about this and your argument concerning assault:
    "The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."[1]

    The law applies only to certain offenses over which the United States government has jurisdiction, including certain crimes committed on federal properties, against certain federal officials and employees, and by members of the military. In addition, it covers certain crimes that are defined by statute as federal offenses wherever they occur, no matter who commits them, such as certain crimes of terrorism.

    Because of principles of federalism embodied in the United States Constitution, federal criminal law does not apply to crimes prosecuted by the individual states. However, 38 states also recognize the fetus or "unborn child" as a crime victim, at least for purposes of homicide or feticide.
     
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  5. WillUSAF

    WillUSAF 500+ Posts

    NOPE! its retaliation from Scalia that is all that this is. Although I did read that Pelosi mentioned impeachment of Trump or Barr to stop this.....Washington just keeps getting uglier and uglier. Pelosi, Schumer and McConnell need replaced (in that order)
     
  6. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Wow.

    If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
    -Will Rogers
     
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  7. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    NOPE! Dems go against their statements from years past when it suits them. How is it retaliation? Different Congress now. Come on.
     
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  8. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    A lot of people use a voice app to write there posts. Its okay!
     
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  9. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Those voice apps need better grammar and diction programming. SCOTUS should rule on this...just to keep in touch with the topic at hand.
     
  10. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Will
    :lmao:
    You sincerely think Trump will nominate and McConnell will bring to a vote a Supreme because of the Scalia? I repeat :lmao:

    Because there is no other reason :idk:
    There is no contentious election looming
    Or that it IS the responsibilty of the POTUS

    How did Ginsberg hesrelf put it?
    The late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg in 2016 said “nothing in the Constitution” prevents a president from nominating to fill a court seat.
    What do 2016 and 2020 have in common?

    Will you might have had more credibility if you had said Trump is just trying to improve his image
     
  11. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    When Shillary and others said it was the Constitutional duty of the POTUS to fill SCOTUS seats, it suited them. Now, they just flatly go against that and get no challenge from the media on it. If any "journalist" does ask, he just accepts whatever ******** answer is given and moves on.
     
  12. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    Trump will do what he wants to do, and what he believes he should do, without any consideration about precedent, history, or the disingenuous balcony coming from the usual suspects. And Frankly, that’s exactly what any Democrat would and has done when in the same position.

    He will make a great choice. BTW, it seems like Barbara Lagos is gaining steam but I like ACB. Hard to crucify a good Catholic woman with seven children, two adopted. But the Left will, and CNN (and the devil, AKA Kamala Harris, and Feinstein) will tell us that her religious beliefs are dangerous. Just wait.

    My only concern is timing, and that he times his announcement — and McConnell plans his strategy—
    to optimize the results on 11/3. And why not? That’s what the party in power does.

    Trump holds the trump card. It’s going to be fascinating to watch this play out.
     
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  13. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    I like the fact that doesn't hail from an east coast school. It is time we break the stranglehold those north east schools have had on the SCOTUS.
     
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  14. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Get read y for the next round
    [​IMG]
     
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  16. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    She has lost it. Of course, with regard to integrity, consistency and reasonableness, she never had it.

    Her throwing that SF salon owner under the bus recently should oppose her true nature to even the most fervent zealots. But then again, they may not even know because the story was squelched by the MSM.
     
  17. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    JF, just speculating, I believe that the Left’s strategy will be all three:

    1- She’s not competent.
    2- She’s a dangerous religious zealot.
    3- Trump has no right to nominate her now.

    BTW, I wouldn’t put it past them to find a few men, crawling out from under their rocks, to accuse her of sexual harassment, or a woman to complain about abusive behavior. Hey, you heard it here first.

    There is one thing I can say about the Left and the Democrats: They are consistent.
     
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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    They have already trotted out #2 today
    I saw it in Spanish, which is odd since a large part of the Spanish-language voter base is Catholic, same as Barrett
     
  19. DrRad

    DrRad 250+ Posts

    Maybe she knew Mitch would block that one too
     
  20. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Rad
    Yea sure that is it.:rolleyes1:
     
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  21. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    If the roles were reversed, Schumer and Biden would push through an ultra liberal judge. Elections have consequences and McConnell will push one for a vote. It will depend upon whether Republicans show a spine. Romney, Murkowski and Collins will be the RINOs we know they are. Who else lets conservatives down?
     
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  22. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    This election will likely go to the Supremes. On that alone, I want to see a Justice seated ASAP. I don't trust Roberts' decisions, Left or Right leaning

    OTOH, the dems were looking for some kind of spark since Biden arouses no one. Now they have it. To liberals it's no longer about Biden v Trump, it's about (hyperbolic) stealing the USSC, stealing the election, doing away w/ Roe v Wade. That part of it concerns me a lot. The rhetoric is about to go off the charts in the next few weeks
     
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  23. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    RBG is seen as a literal God. I dont get it but the blue hairs are going to lose their minds.
     
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  24. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    If a nominee is qualified and up to the work then they should be okayed. I had one friend complaining that the favorite was a devout catholic. I pointed out that there were not supposed to be religious disqualifications And at least none of the favorites are ivy leaguers

    And some of you think I never approve of anything Trump does!!
     
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  25. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    FWIW, if the nominee seems like, looks like and talks like a suburban housewife, she might help win over some of that important voting block for Trump. The top two choices would seem to fit that description.
     
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  26. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    I agree & great point. The 'suburban housewife vote' >> I always thought was overblown since I know a lot of said group. Most are conservative, moreso than me. But RBG likely strikes a chord w/ that group given her achievements in life. It could tip many of them Blue if the MSM plays this as a 'dirty trick'

    But, as you say, if the nominee comes across as likeable, competent and fair, it could be the game changer
     
  27. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    Just watched Meet the Press. Klobuchar was talking about the importance of the selection in regards to Obamacare... In the 14th minute Klobuchar warned that "hundreds of millions with pre existing conditions" are at risk over the selection

    Amy, stop hanging around Joe Biden
     
  28. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    You guys realize that everyone in this equation is being hypocritical, right? Nobody is standing by their previous positions, and if the roles were reversed, they'd be saying the opposite things. It's like the filibuster. When you're in the majority, it's "obstructionism." When you're in the minority, it's an important principle of consensus and minority rights.
     
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  29. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    This is a possible solution to that particular problem.
     
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  30. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    An elegant solution.
     
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