Good book on history, philosophy, and how ideas define destiny.

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  1. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    "How Should We Then Live?" is written by a Christian apologist but I think is relevant for everyone who wants to trace why the world is the way it is. I just started but I will try to summarize as best as I can and post links here for those who are interested.

    How Should We Then Live? Chapter 1: Ancient Rome
     
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  2. Monahorns

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  3. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I will definitely check this out
    thanks
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    If EVER the phrase." those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it" was applicable it is 2020.
    Great and scary history.
    Thanks Mona
     
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  4. theiioftx

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    I encourage everyone to watch Social Dilemma on NetFlix. Eye opening.
     
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  5. Monahorns

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    iis, it is funny that this book was written in 1976 but his last chapter is about how mass media warps peoples' perception of reality. If only he lived to see Twitter and Facebook. Phew.
     
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  6. Joe Fan

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    Thanks, I felt I had seen everything on NFLX I wanted to see
     
  7. nashhorn

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    Having all this time on my hands I understand where you’re coming from JF. I have experienced a number of “what the heck is this” stuff (should say junk) on NFLX.
     
  8. Monahorns

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  12. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Don’t forget West Mall. :)
     
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  13. Monahorns

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    Bubba. There are echo chambers all over the place. I recognize where the West Mall falls. But, this is a very small compartment of discussion compared to the vast world of political discourse on the internet.
     
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  14. Monahorns

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  19. nashhorn

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    Interesting. Makes me curious how he handles what I think has a preposterously defining effect on social cycles: music.
     
  20. Monahorns

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    I am in the process of writing about that. The Chapter 9 articles talks a bit about it too.
     
  21. Monahorns

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  22. Chop

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    It is noteworthy that the nations that adopted Protestantism and its underlying ideology (England, Netherlands, Northern Germany—esp. North Rhein/Westphalia, and later the USA) became the leading nations of the world, where they had previously been far, far back in the pecking order of nations before the Reformation. Or, in the case of the US—non-existent. This didn’t just happen by accident or happenstance. It is not mere coincidence.

    Not trying to re-fight the 30 Years War here, just pointing out facts.

    The most medieval ideologues of all—the pre-revolutionary Russians, became and remained the most backwards of all. I find their Church the most beautiful in all of Christendom. (They also happen to be correct on the filoque IMHO). You just don’t want to build a modern society and government on a medieval mindset.

    Our founding fathers had it right with the First Amendment.
     
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  23. Monahorns

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  24. Chop

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    I bet this guy could do a very deep dive into ‘No Country for Old Men’.
     
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  25. Monahorns

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    If only he had lived long enough to watch it. I do think McCarthy is a nihilist of sorts. But one theme at least in Blood Meridian is the reality of life and death. He didn't believe in order or purpose in life by and large. But then he would create characters that were a law unto themselves. They had purpose and morality that they abided by, usually around bringing death.
     
  26. Monahorns

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  27. Chop

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    The Frankfurt school was a pile of concentrated feces posing as intellectualism. I actually like the real communists (USSR) better than those Frankfort school a$$holes, and I think the USSR really sucked. As bad of a murderous tyrant as he was, do you think for one second that Stalin would have put up with this woke crap. Nope—off to the gulag with those types. The woke / identity politics crowd should be thankful every day that they live in a Western democracy. The real commies would kill them—literally.

    Deep down, they know this. But they’ll never admit it. Why do you think the Frankfort school players immigrated to the USA? If they were Marxists, shouldn’t they have immigrated instead to the USSR?
     
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  28. Monahorns

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    I can't believe I hadn't thought of that already. Great point.
     
  29. Monahorns

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    Francis Schaeffer discussing the playbook our elite institutions have been running with since 1976. If you don't question the accepted narrative of just about everything, I think you are making a big mistake. We all need to think through carefully what information we are being fed on the news.

    How Should We Then Live? Chapter 12: Manipulation and the New Elite
     
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  30. iatrogenic

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    Missionaries.
     
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