2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by ProdigalHorn, Dec 6, 2018.

  1. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    I’m watching a stream of Trump’s rally in Pensacola. He’s fired up and full of energy. Amazing to think that what two weeks ago, he was in the hospital with the Wuhan virus.

    Best of all, he looks like he’s having the time of his life with the campaign. Smiling, laughing, joking with insults at Slow Joe and the Democrats.

    I mostly bought into the fake poll doom and gloom in 16. The only thing nagging at my doubt was the fact that Trump looked like he was having so much fun running for president, while Clinton dreaded each event you could tell, and just wanted to be in the White House already.

    Every presidential election I’ve watched, since 80, the candidate who looks like he’s having more fun on the campaign has won. Joe comes out in the morning like Punxsutawney Phil, sees his shadow, and runs back into his basement. While Trump is flying to 3 events a day, having the best time of his life. Good times.
     
  2. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    True for Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc. regarding campaign energy. Trump has done 4 or 5 rallies in one day before.
     
  3. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    And, he talks to the lying fake media for 10-20 minutes after each one before he goes to the next one. So rude and boorish and fascist.
     
  4. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  5. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  6. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I am telling y'all the DMC will try to mount a massive cheating campaign.
     
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  7. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Btw, Pennsylvania is one of the few states that allows you to change your vote. Early voters can actually get a do-over. That should help Trump in that state after Biden's statement about transitioning from oil.
     
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    Last edited: Oct 23, 2020
  8. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    People have been moving from California to Arizona for decades, and yet it was pretty red until very recently. The people moving from California to Arizona aren't left wing kooks from Berkeley. They are suburbanites and professionals from Los Angeles and San Diego. They used to help make Arizona Republican. Now that we repel suburbanites, it makes Arizona more Democratic.
     
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  9. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Not a fan of the hair, but then who's looking at her hair?
     
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  10. WillUSAF

    WillUSAF 500+ Posts

    My dad lives in Matthews, NC (not far)
     
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  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The interesting part to me now, from the current poster, is his reliance upon the polling. The polling from 2016 was the most defective in the history of American presidential elections. It has literally never been so wrong. Even going back to when mail moved by horseback. My position has been that some of it was so bad that it almost certainly had to be intentional - as a form of voter suppression - for example "Trump is down by 30 points, he has no chance, so why even go to the polls?"

    Even if the bad polling was not intentional and was simply gross human error instead (and that's being generous), why rely on it today as the foundation of your argument? Your position is DOA.
     
  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts



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  14. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    It tells the story that early voting has always been a horrible idea and we need to stop pushing it.
     
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  15. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    We got better candidates and presidents when it was harder to vote and suffrage was limited.

    Compare Washington and Jefferson to Trump, Obama, the Clintons and W

    I am not saying we should go back to white male property owners but that Democracy has its limits
     
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  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    trigger warning for OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE

     
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  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Postal Carriers have a Union
    And they already threw their support to Biden
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Tony Bobulinski is a direct witness, which is something they never found in 4 years with regard to Russiagate/Mueller/Impeachment

    Bobulinski is a firsthand eyewitness, with confirming receipts, emails, texts and financial records

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    Last edited: Oct 24, 2020
  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Hercules deems it so

     
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  20. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    I should have better sense to let this go but I can't. Transplants from California and New York have been turning areas blue(or more blue) way before Trump came on to the scene. Trump had the suburbs in 2016 and still got only 48% (3.5 over Hillary) in Arizona. To blame him for this is the pinnacle of ridiculousness. To think these people leaving Cal/NY are red voters might be even more ridiculous.
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2020
  21. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Watch last 10 seconds


     
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  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    CNN actually had to clarify for their viewers that this is a Biden Rally

     
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  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Joe doesnt care much for the honking and flag waiving^

     
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  24. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  25. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Listen to the TDS folks accuse these Trump supporters not being gay.


     
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    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  27. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    So much truth.
     
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  28. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    The voters who used to leave CA and NY for places like Arizona and Texas were Republicans. It was people like my parents. They left Oakland, CA in 1984 and moved to Plano, TX and outvoted the rural areas where voters were voting Democratic, because they were still pissed off about Sherman's March to the Sea.

    They mostly aren't that way anymore. They're professionally similar to their predecessors but politically pretty different. And like I've said before, Trump didn't cause this problem. He just aggravated it.
     
  29. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    No, that's not a ridiculous thought at all. Who would most want to leave the socialist paradise of California?
    A leftist, or a normal, decent American?
    SeattleHusker, or you?
     
  30. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

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