Attention to details !!!

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by MajesticII, Nov 9, 2020.

  1. MajesticII

    MajesticII 1,000+ Posts

    Wasn't Herman supposed to be a coach who paid attention to details ? WTH happened to that ?
    Wasn't it 3 or 4 times we throw deep forcing the WR to look back into a blinding sun ? Duhhhhh...How about setting your formation to the other side of the ball and running those routes so the WR doesn't have to look back into the sun????..After all those plays were dropback passes...Hmmmmm...That would be just too simple wouldn't it ?
     
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  2. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    To be fair, more than once Sam looked at then passed on an open player 5-10 yards downfield to throw bombs instead. Not sure what he was thinking.
     
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  3. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

    Can they put some kind of shade thing inside the helmet?
    Maybe the first time a receiver loses the ball in the sun they let the coaches know so mensa can check the Bright Sun chapter of the binder
     
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  4. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    I had this lined up this morning but unsure where to put it. I'm not a TH-basher on here. I still support him...albeit barely...in spite of some grave errors I believe he has made. The attention to details you all are discussing is important off the field and on..and are interdependent. The discipline, the order, the authoritative structure and boundaries that is necessary 90% of the time to win at a high level doesn't seem to be appreciated by some of these modern day young coaches who value a brotherly connection with players and elevate their feelings and emotions over -again- authority and boundaries. This is why you see coaches like Saban, Belichek, etc at the top for so long. This is the difference between a Patterson team and a Herman team when we play. People like to point out what a gentle and nice guy Landry was...and he won. But he was also a strict disciplinarian by most accounts. Look at Lombardi, Knoll, Wooden, Auerbach, Walsh, Parcels, LaRussa, Torre, Cox.. the list goes on...
    Sure there are exceptions. Mack seems to integrate both player friendly and the above... Some may be more player friendly. That is why I said 90%. But even most of those coaches who may be "player friendly" and win I bet you have stringent boundaries and rigorous rules and expectations to maintain focus, discipline and order.

    Here is some insight from VY on Mack, a few of his rules, and their Championship run..

    (In response to a question about what the team gained after the big Rose Bowl win vs Michigan year prior)

    "Yeah we did. At first we had some guys who were smelling themselves a little bit. So when we came back off that win, the guys came back a little happy go lucky. [They] forgot about Coach Brown’s rules and regulations and I saw that in my team so I asked coach if I could speak to the team for a second. I was pointing out his team rules like in his team meeting he always wanted you to sit up straight. He didn’t want you to wear a hat, he didn’t want you to wear earrings. There were a lot of things that he didn’t like in his meeting room and a lot of guys came in doing that. And I had to say something because I felt like that was going to tear us down. Guys felt like because we won that first Rose Bowl against Michigan we were done. I was like nah dude we’re not finish yet The rules obviously were important to Mack Brown and Vince Young. During that two-season run, the Longhorns went 24-1. That is a level of excellence the current team is still chasing 15 years later."

    I believe teams can "get lucky " and win big occasionally. But dynasties...but sustained winning...is built with programs and teams who have consistent order, structure, discipline, boundaries and expectations. Harder to do with the kids these days, but I believe A. They need it more than ever and B. It is still achievable.
     
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  5. rick mueller

    rick mueller Burnt Orange Bleeder

    Years ago I would listen to Jim Rome while I ate lunch. I remember him interviewing a former player from the Cowboys during the Jimmy Johnson years. I don't recall the player. Rome asked him if it was true that JJ was hard to play for. The player's response was something along this line:

    "Oh no, JJ was the easiest coach in the world to play for, as long as you gave 110% every minute. If you gave less that 110%, he would make your life a living hell."

    Some coaches like Saban and Belichek can establish this expectation as the standard and the players understand that. They don't rock the boat.
     
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  6. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Rain
    Thank you for the :vy: quotes.
    He ia an exceptionally charactered person.
    I will always regret for him that the Titans took him
     
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  7. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    McNair's death hurt, too....timing was awful for Vince...and for Steve "Air".
     
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  8. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Threads like this really make obvious the difference between "has reasonable issues with coaching" and "is just searching for things to complain about".
     
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  9. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    Plus those balls were thrown in a North East direction, meaning that due to the different rotational speeds of the earth, the ball would be traveling faster relative to the catch point than if thrown in a due East or West direction - was this taken into account - I doubt it.
     
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  10. rick mueller

    rick mueller Burnt Orange Bleeder

    When we were running the patented Greg Davis East-West Coast offense, I'm sure that was a well known and accounted for phenomenon. It may well have been the inspiration for the basic principles of the offense. Mensa may have overlooked it though.
     
  11. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    it is ironic though, that we have pee charts but can, for example, get so many stupid penalties.

    it does seem maybe the “detail oriented” Label for TH was just hype. The team is playing better now but it seems like there is always a let down, sloppy, mistake filled game in our near future.
     
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  12. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

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