What is Socialism?

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Musburger1, Apr 14, 2016.

  1. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    We better be fighting back in Nov or they will grow like cancer.
     
  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    That's fine, but people should be physically fighting back in the moment. The police should be stopping it and prosecuting people. If they won't, then those who do believe in the rule of law and Western values should be stopping them.
     
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  3. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    And how, exactly, does printing money into oblivion cause a shortage of coins?
     
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  4. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    Less demand. Covid played a part as well.
     
  5. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Socialism is the employment of force over every aspect of life.
     
  6. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    So there is a shortage of coins because there are enough coins to cause a decrease in demand?
     
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  7. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    The shortage is from less coins being needed. Larger bills=higher demand
    coins= lower demand, so less minting.
    In future years this should include smaller bills.
    USD does not go as far as 5 and 10 years ago and the margin is getting wider. See below:
    Chapwood Index
    This index started in 08’ after the great recession. CPI is not accurate anymore.
    Also Covid slowed demand for coins.
     
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  8. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Apparently this is a thing, supposedly. Link. It confuses me some though, because over here there is no similar shortage, and Germany is encouraging card use as well.
     
  9. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    It’s also a sign of inflation from the Central Bank printing. May not be in the news because the Fed wants to point us to CPI Index for inflation numbers:
    Chapwood Index
    May explain Germany pushing for more credit card use as well. Euro Countries and US lead in budget deficits. In June the US spent $1.1T while tax revenue was $240B, -$860B deficit shortfall in June only!
     
  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Monthly figures aren't very helpful when it comes to the deficit, because revenue doesn't come in a consistent stream. I'm not saying we won't have a ridiculous deficit. We will, but it probably won't be in the $8T range.
     
  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    How long before they come for us is some similar fashion?

    " .... The peace Ella had found serving the poor at the Martha and Mary Convent was not to last. By 1918, as Moscow fell into anarchy and then Red Terror, one night a knock came at the door of the convent. Soon after Ella was bundled into the back of a truck by the secret police, acting under Lenin’s express orders, and driven off into the night.

    Like the Royal Family before her, she was eventually taken to Alapayevsk in the Ural Mountains where the Red Army held her under armed guard. Deep down, Ella knew her fate had been sealed and, she wrote the following:

    The Lord found that it was time for us to carry his cross. Let us strive to be worthy of that joy.

    In the early hours of July 18, Ella and a number of others were taken to a nearby disused mine, one that had recently flooded. Ella was ushered forwards first by the now increasingly agitated Red Guards. Calmly she approached them. Knowing the hour had finally come, she knelt before her executioners and prayed: “Father, forgive them, for they know not….” She was unable to finish her prayer, however, for rifle butts bludgeoned her face. Dazed she was picked up and, to the horror of those watching, thrown head first into the gaping blackness. One by one the other captives were also thrown down into the darkness below. Their task completed, the Red Guards left, leaving all to die.

    An advancing White Army recovered her body months later. Eventually it was taken to the church on the Mount of Olives where she had come as a pilgrim some 30 years previously. It is there, facing the Holy City, with her earthly journey now over, that she awaits the advance of another, heavenly, army, who shall come to claim her.

    Just over 70 years after Ella’s death across the now defunct Soviet Union, jubilant crowds watched as statues of Lenin were pulled down. And as a new dawn broke for Russia, it revealed, standing once more in the heart of Moscow, the memorial of Ella to her husband, Sergei, latterly re-erected: that Cross no longer now just a symbol to human love, but one of fidelity to Divine Love.

    The Martyrdom of ‘the Most Beautiful Woman in Europe’
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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Venezuela's oil production collapsed by more than 86% in less than 5 years.

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  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  15. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    AOC would have fit in with the Politburo in Moscow in the 30s during the Holodomor, living it up in excess while starving the kulaks to death by taking all their grain and selling it to fund their lifestyle. Pure evil.
     
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  16. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    A way to mentally justify money for nothing is to believe you've been aggrieved by evil people.

    A way to remain in a country you illegally entered is to claim the law in place is being enforced by racists.

    I have to ask this question: How does a feminist attack a woman who has achieved the highest level in her field?

    By saying her husband told her how to vote, what to say and how to think.
     
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  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Rut ro
    Whole Foods will be boycotted soon.
     
  19. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    It seems to be doing OK in the scandanavian countries.
     
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  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    stop trolling
     
  21. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Even Bubba knows better but he is obligated to say that
     
  22. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    A. I gotta be me.
    B. If I'm a troll...
    C. There's a scale. The far left is a collectivism. The far right is individualism. The US will always be in the middle of that scale. We have a central military, municipalities, public schools, libraries, public health, police, fire, public roads and highways. None of these things are classified as "socialist". Medicare, social security, food stamps, farm subsidies. We'll never move too far left but we'll typically have most of those things above.
     
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The 10,000+ years worth of isolated, white culture of sveden has already been litigated many times (and they did vote it out too)
     
  24. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    That's what I don't understand. How can we compare with a complete white and nationalistic culture that completely self-identifies with it's one and only self?
     
  25. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Sweden is a pretty market driven economy
     
  26. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    John Mackey has been vocal against socialism and pro capitalism for a long time. He even goes after the grocery store unions.
     
  27. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    They don't consider themselves socialist.
     
  28. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Saw this on Facebook.

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  29. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Would you say that they have more socialist characteristics than the US?
     
  30. humahuma

    humahuma 1,000+ Posts

    Sweden is not Socialist. They do have socialize Heath program. However, every citizen pays roughly 50% taxes. Tell the 47 % of the US citizens that currently do not pay taxes, they need to start giving 50% of their income to the government. You make $10,000, $5,000 goes to government. Everyone pays into the system.
     
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