The coach we fired and treated like a dog is destroying #10 Miami

48-18 at the beginning of the 4th quarter. Mudhole...

 

Mack needed to go at that moment in time. Who knows what would have happened had he stayed.

 

Final score: #17 North Carolina 62 #10 Miami 26

 

Kevin Sumlin has become available.

 

I said at the time- you knuckleheads have no idea what I’ve been through at 55 years old when Mack was ran off. Here we go. Bye Mack and back to sitting on the edge of my seat in the 4th hoping UT hits a FG to win against KU.
Similar to these boneheads here saying it’s time for Sam to go.

I am in hopes TH learned a lesson and rights this ship.

 

Is your point that had we kept Mack and waited seven years he might have gone 6-3 in 2020?

 

Duke actually think that Mack could’ve turned us around a lot quicker than what I was afraid that was gonna happen, and I admit it I could’ve been wrong. But I wasn’t and this is what I was afraid of.
Thinking next year is our year and then feeling like an Aggie.

 

Well to be fair, we fired Manny Diaz and treated him like a dog too.

 

I bet we are all happy for Mack, I know I am.

 

And we tried the trap door trick on TH, but the lever didn’t work and we all have a sheepish grin on our face as TH just figured out what we tried and failed to do.

 

NR, while I don’t agree, it’s a fair point. I believe that Mack had to go for all the reasons that have been written on this forum, ad nauseam.

However, some folks learn from their mistakes and I am of the belief that had MB been brought back instead of our hiring Herman, the program would be in better shape today. Of course, that was never considered, nor should it have been at the time.

Sadly Herman has proven to be a liability, potentially damaging the program for years to come and in ways no one would have imagined.

 

Maybe Mack just needed a few years off to recharge his batteries (the results so far at UNC indicate this might be the case). I wonder what would have happened if we had begged him to come back after the Charlie Strong fiasco instead of, you know, hiring the guy who was one of his graduate assistant coaches.

 

Can't say what Mack would've done but I'd of told us to go piss up a rope.

 

For me, once someone leaves whether their choice or not, they leave period. No point coming back.

 

The University of North Carolina athletic department would beg to differ.

 

This makes sense to me
Sometimes a break from the grind and a change in direction is what people need to thrive again
I'm glad for Mack, he brought us a title and is a legend for that alone imo

 

I'm indifferent. I, like most here, have lived under the delusion that a NC winning coach at Texas would make that his last stop on the coaching carousel. So, I don't give a hoot if he succeeds now or not.

Guess I'm not indifferent.

 

Me next year in the stands: Hey Tom, the jerk store called and they’re all out of you!

 

Mack needed a grace period if you will...

 

If Mack Brown cared about UT more than his own legacy, he wouldnt have screwed us out of Nick Saban and none of this other crap wouldve happened.

 

I've read at least a half-dozen theories why Saban didn't come to Texas. My question is why would he give a crap what Mack did or said?

 

Perhaps if Mack could have taken a hiatus for a couple of years and come back to coach, he might have been able to get the football program back to a top 5 program. On the other hand, things could have been a lot worse. But, that's mere speculation and we'll never know.

 

Garbage title. Mack Brown earned probably 50 million dollars from Texas during his time here, had given up on recruiting, was tired, lazy, and need to have been fired a year before he was.

His record at another school 7 years later, plays no role in any realistic assessment of if he should have been fire / allowed to resign.

 

There were people on this board back in 2013 posting that they hoped Mack would get cancer. So much vitriol back then. But those sick fucks have gotten precisely what they deserved the past 7 years. Too bad the rest of us also had to pay the price for the bad karma they created.

 

No need for death threats, but Brown was washed up as it turned out after the 2009 season, and needed to be fired before he was. No one, least of all a head coach earning millions of dollars a year, is owed a job. If you can not perform, you need to leave or be fired.

There is no bad luck created for a program by firing an underperforming employee who’s gotten tired and lazy.

 

Even if that were true, Duck, you only fire a coach after you've secured a demonstrably better one. We didn’t even remotely come close to doing that. And so now we suffer, most likely for several more years.

 

Easy to say now but harder back then. I think the plan was to have Brown retire then have Saban come here, but Brown apparently changed his mind at the last minute and gummed the works up, so Saban stayed at Alabama.

But this burned too many bridges so Brown still had to go, leaving Texas needing a coach. Not too many available then so Strong was picked, and he’d done Ok at Louisville plus his skin color made him a “historical” pick that the UT President could bask in the accolades from.

Herman was clearly a step up from the joke that Charlie turned out to be, but has not delivered yet or probably ever.

With Meyer not an option, keeping Herman for another year is the right call, then look for who’s available this time next year, if no B12 title.

 

I did what I should have done in the first place and research it myself. Google "why didn't Saban take the Texas job" and you"ll get multiple options that tell the same story.

Supposedly Saban's agent reached out to Texas about him replacing Mack after winning back to back NC's in 11-12. That doesn't pass the smell test for me. What, the chance of being the first coach to win 3 consecutive championships held no appeal for him? Yeah right.
Tom Hicks was a major player and the rest anyone interested can read themselves.

 

When this is all said and done, Mack will have NC in the hunt loooooong before Texas will be. BUT! I am of the belief that Mack needed a break to recharge after McCoy went down in the championship game, I'm not convinced that he would have returned Texas to glory without it.

 

Allow me to add when Mack was forced out after '13 Hicks says he tried to get in touch with Saban's agent but he wouldn't return his calls.