Biden signed 33 EOs first week

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Horn6721, Jan 27, 2021.

  1. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Remember when Biden said you can't legislate by Executive order unless you are a dictator.
    Dems on here, is THIS what you voted for?
    Do you defend This?
     
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  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    They care about it as much you cared about the wall being ordered by EO and funded through the National Emergencies Act.
     
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  3. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Does a wall require legislation? Is a wall a "law" that Congress would have to write? But, you voted for Trump again, anyway. And, instead of saying Biden is ******* POS, you go back to Trump.

    WTF?
     
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  4. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    And before anyone says Congress must approve spending, please. They also must allow people to read a Bill before shoving it down the country's throat. So, when Obamacare was shoved at us, the precedent was set.

    And how the f**k is the border situation not a national emergency?
     
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  5. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Is this what would be referred to as BDS?
     
  6. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    It's called a typo, first of all. Second, I haven't posted in a week, my choice, since being threatened with permanent ban for something I said, in general, to everyone who voted for Biden, and I come back to immediate Bubba trolling.

    I'll stop posting again...

    #MyKeyboardMyChoice
     
  7. Creek

    Creek 1,000+ Posts

    Executive order against calling the Wuhan Virus the China Virus.
     
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  8. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Deez
    If you can't see the difference between a wall as part of an effort to stop illegals and Biden exposing young females to males in showers and locker rooms maybe you have been out of the country too long.

    Notice you who supposedly voted for Trump used Trump as a way of deflecting.
    This is not about Trump.
     
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  9. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Was #WuFlu barred?
     
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  10. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    Executive Orders have gotten out of control from both sides. We are perverting the system by allowing POTUS to throw crap against the wall and then let 9 people in black robes make the call.

    In my opinion the three things we need to do to remedy our political process....
    1. Term Limits
    2. Some sort of Limit to EOs
    3. Balanced budget amendment

    We could right a lot of wrong if these three things were done.

    We could get to a place were legislation really must be negotiated again and politicians couldn't just promise ever increasing largess to win votes. And the benefit of granting largess wouldn't be as great since you wouldn't be eligible to spend your life as a politician and get rich by doing so.
     
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  11. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I see your point
    As a reference Trump had the fewest since GHW Bush . 71 fewer than W and 56 less than Obama
     
  12. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Yeah, but Trump's were just SO bad. They were equivalent to eleventy by every other president.

    Trump could have signed 1. That would have been outrageous to never Trumpers.

    No new wars and brought troops home. Outrageous!!!!

    Biden will get us right back in and the usually peace loving, "War, good God y'all...what is it good for" crowd will applaud it.

    Anyone who voted for Biden has issues. Period.

    Edit: I am attacking the ideas of Biden voters here, not the people themselves. Just in case anyone is wondering
     
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  13. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    #MyKeyboardMyChoice
     
  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  15. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Well hic at the very least the Biden supporters are staying quiet.
    Wonder why.
    So far the only post to try to excuse Biden came from a supposed Trumo supporter.

    But but Dr Joe Trump was so boorish.
     
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  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Believe me, I don't like the Biden EOs. My point is that you all are distinguishing Biden's EOs and Trump's EOs based on your preferred policy outcomes rather than whether or not Biden or Trump had the constitutional authority to do what they did. My position is that neither did.
     
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  17. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    BO I’m in your camp but those things are putting limits on Govt and I do not see that ever being allowed. Anything that limits their power and requires them to vote on is not going to happen.
     
  18. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    No, I'm saying the Biden EOs have already caused harm. Building a wall does the opposite.

    You really remind me of Kurt (Thanks, Charlie Strong) Bohls. You say you don't care what posters think of you. I contend that you try to impress the liberal posters around here mores than support things Trump did. I'm sure you don't care I think Mr. Bohls.
     
  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Like I said, I don't like the EOs. However, the hypocritical bellyaching gets old.
     
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  20. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    You said politicians alway disagree with the other side. You seemed to kind of shrug your shoulders at that. Yet, Trump voters having issues with the content of the Biden, yeah right, I mean the Puppeteers', EOs is hypocritical bellyaching? He is reversing the things Trump did, which were favorable to Trump voters. Well, most Trump voters. Why would we not complain about them?

    Wow man, at least you will get Sh and Bubba to like that comment.
     
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  21. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Appropriations for laws that govern immigration would seem to be somewhat a gray area. Is every dollar lined out in a budget? Was there no line for a wall but a line that prompted Obama to defer immigration enforcement for DACA kids?
     
  22. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I don't shrug my shoulders. The EOs are largely bad, and some are terrible. However, it's hard to get too mad at a President for using EOs when our President tried to fulfill his biggest campaign promise by EO and with funds that were appropriated for something else. It's like a guy who went into Walmart to shoplift getting mad that somebody stole his car in the parking lot. The car thief was still wrong to steal it, but the shoplifter doesn't have a whole lot of moral standing to *****.
     
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  23. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    The DACA EO, the Wall EO, and most of Biden's EOs are bogus.
     
  24. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    So because YOU Deez disagreed with Trump using EO to build the wall which BTW has proven to be effective reducing the flow of people trying to enter illegally You think we are hypocritcal for criticizing Biden's EOs that are harming Americans.
    Got it
     
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  25. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    No. Deez is just trying to show a wider perspective. Both sides justify and criticize EOs the same way. Me/good and you/bad. For that reason, I don't criticize Biden's use of EOs. I don't like it, but this is now how the game is played.

    Also, it isn't the # of EOs that is important. It is the nature of them. Do the President's EOs fall within Constitutional powers or not. If so, then I may not like the purpose but I won't gripe. If the EO violates Constitutional order then I gripe.
     
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  26. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    If you're going to identify that as trolling, then you have the troll barometer "over tuned".

    Hang in there!
     
  27. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    You aren't a hypocrite for being against the EOs. You're a hypocrite for playing the "executive order card," albeit passive aggressively and expecting Biden voters to answer to you about it.

    But it's ok. I expect the sort of thing, and I won't hassle you too much more about. Besides, I need to save up my energy for when you all start caring about the deficit and wasteful spending again in 7 months.
     
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  28. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    EXACTLY it is the nature of them Not all EOs are equal.
    To compare an EO that helped us secure the border from people entering illegally to an EO that allows males to be in locker rooms and showers with females is ludicris.
    I am surprised you are ok with it simply because that is "the way the game is played"
     
  29. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Deez
    Show me where I spoke against ALL of Biden's EOS>
    I am not against All EOs. I will review them and comment when I have time
    But even you have to admit signing 33 in first week seems excessive. Obama didn't sign that many his first week. No other Pres ever has
     
  30. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I am not okay with it. But the problem isn't the use of EO. It is the ends they are aimed at. I don' think we should turn our society upside down for trans by any means.
     
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