France and the Yellow Vests

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Musburger1, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Not sure where you are going with this. But if the implication is that the higher rate of non-lethal violence against minorities is warranted, I don't know.

    That wasn't my point. My point is that cops don't necessarily target minorities to kill like the #BlackLivesMatter movement claims. The truth is much more complicated than that. Part of the truth is at what rate is the level of violence warranted.

    I bet in general police use the appropriate level of force. The problem comes when they don't and they are protected by the law. It causes police and society to be separated. For policing to work we need those policemen who break the law or use too much force to meet the appropriate consequences in order to keep them trusted.
     
  2. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Obviously, you make a great deal of sense. However, when that is posted after this stupid comment:

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    which ignores Mens Rea and misstates statistics , your logic loses some of its power. Do paper deliverers deserve to be shot for delivering papers? Of course not. That pisses everyone off, but accidents happen. Should we criminalize accidents and use the accident to label everyone engaged in police activity "bad bananas"? If so, please avoid all car wreck accidents because you're going to be labeled a bad banana by the unthinking, and then going to jail should you be involved in one.
     
  3. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Don't conflate Monahorns with LongestHorn. That's grossly unfair to Monahorns.
     
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  4. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    That would be grossly unfair and I would never do such a disservice to Monahorns.
     
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  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Still going


     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2019
  6. Hollandtx

    Hollandtx 250+ Posts

    Meanwhile, here in the US, I would bet 9/10 people have any inkling this is happening, why it is happening, or have even heard the term yellow vests.
    The "news" is too busy wondering if Melania has a body double, or if Beto waves his arms too much. (he does)
     
  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Several polls have Le Pen’s party leading in France. Could become a situation where the populist-nationalists lead in France, UK, Netherlands, Hungary, Poland, and Italy

     
  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    They are back at it hard
    I didnt even realize it
     
  9. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Why would msm show French people protesting their fave Macron
    when they can show Iranian protestors and pretend the protests are against Trump?
     
  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Not Yellow Vests but Le France

     
  11. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Well good luck with that.
     
  12. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Macron?! Didn't expect that for him.
     
  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Still going, despite the risks
     
  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    still going

     
  15. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    This ^ reminds us that the stuff that was relevant before the virus is still relevant.
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2020
  16. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 2,500+ Posts

    My bad, I didn't see the date of the original post.
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2020
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    While still down, Le Pen keeps inching closer

     
  18. beijinghorn1

    beijinghorn1 500+ Posts

    I believe the reason it is not being reported is that it is basically a global problem in democracies and not unique to France although like always the French are doing things in a more dramatic way. In general, you have one group of people who could care less what the government does as long as they are getting their handouts (Once these people grab hold of power, it seems impossible to dislodge them as in Venezuela, Argentina, etc...) and another group of people who feel they are already paying too much in taxes and are hell bent on not paying more. There is no middle ground, but crisis like 2008 and now COVID only add numbers to the group who want hand outs.
     

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