Riots in Minneapolis

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Crockett, May 27, 2020.

  1. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Speaking of buying favor, I see Congress will vote on H.B. 40 (for 40 acres and a mule, i.e. reparations) today. The Dems are determined to bankrupt America even as it burns in Minnesota and else where. I wonder how many white politicians will have the guts to vote it down?
     
  2. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    And SJL is spearheading it.
     
  3. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    The Burleson officer NEVER HAD A CHANCE to return fire. Further, when Elders was apprehended, it was not while he was in the stolen vehicle. He had bailed to run into the woods, at which time I expect he heard something along the lines of "Elders, get your MF'ing *** on the ground before I blow it away." Yeah, you can expect body cam footage is going to contain less that professional direction and orders. But the bottom line is that it will ALSO show that Elders complied WITH the orders given.

    I have not heard whether the K9 unit had been called out but most fleeing criminals in Texas ALSO know that, once the dogs are called and released, you WILL be bitten multiple times.

    In some respects, this is the same sort of thing as when we had convicts on the fence when I worked for the prison system. The picket officer went through three steps- the direction to stop and drop, the warning shot and then the shot to the body. We had one in Lamesa that still kept running and got a fist-sized hole in his leg for his efforts...he didn't believe the picket officer would pull the trigger because he was in chopped-down cotton fields. He is the exception. MOST trying to escape promptly stop and drop once the warning shot was fired...

    I have no doubt that Elders knew he is going to prison for the rest of his miserable life, but that a decade or so on the Row is STILL better than being carried out in a bag from what passes for the woods of Cooke County.
     
  4. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    This was after you tasted it in the isle I hope.
     
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  5. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    B&J literally had the mission of being ice cream SJW's since day one. It's not like they're Coke and suddenly changed teams. I figured everyone knew that Ben and Jerry were hippies.
     
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  6. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    Again, I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with me or just shedding more light on the event.

    If your implication is that officers can get shot in the line of duty, and thus, Potter was primed for deadly force against Wright, then I won't disagree with that. If we're being results-oriented, Wright wasn't as much of a threat as Elders was. There are a lot of circumstances to consider with Ofc. Lott as well (time of day, location, no backup, etc.).

    Furthermore, when Elders was caught running... I'm not sure how we can twist that into "complying" with officers. Maybe you're right that he knew the game was up and decided he'd rather just lie down and get hauled off at that point. After, of course, attempting to murder a police officer, murdering a carjacked victim, and a litany of other things that Wright had not done (yet) when he was shot. While I haven't seen any footage of the Elders arrest, I don't think Wright's lack of compliance with trying to get back in the car even comes close to what Elders did.

    Your warning shot story doesn't seem to apply to either situation here. Potter thought she was tasing Wright, which seemed reasonable from the video. She made a mistake, for which she should be held accountable.
     
  7. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    Ashli Babbit absolutely deserved to die. She was intent on physically harming government officials. Furthermore, if the police had done nothing, all of her compatriots would have stormed the area and assaulted the Congressmen.
     
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  8. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    You need serious help.
     
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  9. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    The "mob" will go to whatever brand is cheapest or where they can steal it.
     
  10. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    You’re a good dad.
     
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  11. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    What was the cost for 40 acres and a mule back then plus interest up till today? I bet it’s been paid already.
     
  12. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    He's a good dad, but keep in mind that giving thousands of dollars to UT does far more harm than buying a $4 pint of ice cream does.
     
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  13. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    My donations to the school ended years ago. Thankfully she chose a small private college that gave her nearly 100% in scholarships.
     
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  14. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    AB was part of a riotous mob and none of us know what her specific intent or goal was. She probably had no conscious desire other than to register opposition. When a dam breaks the water does not know where it is going or where it will end up

    lots of drops in this flood and one got shot. Was that necessary? No. On calm reflection was it a plausible risk? Yes

    did she expect it? No

    cops over react frequently because what can go wrong and kill them is something they always have in mind

    too bad she got killed. She should have stuck with voting and writing letters and deal with the reality that in politics in an electoral democracy you rarely get what you like
     
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  15. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    And this is where I differ with a lot of "libs," which isn't even saying much compared to the average political leaning of this board.
     
  16. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Do you support the suppression of the identity of the officer and, if so, why?

    If Babbit had been a person of color and not an unarmed white female, would you still have asserted that she "deserved to die" and if not, what is the difference?

    And when are you going to use some of the $GME options profits to sponsor? Or did you also lie about making bank on $GME?
     
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  17. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    AH?
    What proof do you have Ashli intended to do physical harm.
    A gun? Any weapon? Any social media rant saying that?

    Seems you like to make up accusations to support your agenda
     
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  18. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    If Babbit deserved to die for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, Wright deserved to die for the same reason. Police can overreact to a situation, especially when it's a situation of your own making.
     
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  19. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    If Ashli Babbit was part of a mob of black protestors who stormed the capitol building, then I'd argue that the police should have mowed them down and sort out the bodies later.

    A mob attacking the capitol is a much different scenario than somebody running away from the police. Now if there was a cop in front of that car, then by all means light up the driver.
     
  20. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    Yes if she was part of an antifa or BLM group that attacked the building, she should have been put down just the same as a white person.

    BTW, please tell me what I "lied" about

    I think it's hilarious that posters want to argue against my positions based on sponsorship. It's entertaining enough that I think I'll continue NOT to sponsor just out of pure entertainment value.
     
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  21. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I don't think protesters should be mowed down. I don't support the property damage at the Capitol.

    But citizens should be able to go into the Capitol and protest. The police should have left. Or they should have been enough police to keep protesters out while Congress was still there. But murdering citizens is beyond the pale.
     
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  22. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Yeah that’ll show us.

    :facepalm:
     
  23. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    Ashli Babbit didn't "attack" the capital building anymore than BLM/Antifa rioters attacked the Federal Courthouse in Portland or that burned down police stations across the country.

    Had Babbit been Black there would be riots over the cop not being charged.

    The capitol building is just that. A building. A life was taken over "property." We've been told over and over again that people are more important than property to justify burning and looting.

    Enough of the hypocrisy.
     
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  24. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Whether or not someone "deserves to die" (or more accurately, can be justifiably killed by law enforcement) has to do with the threat that person immediately poses. My understanding is that she was shot while climbing through a window and (and I could be wrong on this) that the place she was breaking into had been evacuated. So I'm not sure what the immediate threat to death and serious bodily injury she posed. I'm not saying she didn't "deserve to die," but it's not a slam dunk by any stretch.

    Lol! Obviously sponsorship has no bearing on your argument, but I'll admit that the sponsorship shaming cracks me up.
     
  25. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    I'll say this again so everyone can understand -- both the BLM protestors AND the Trump mob should have been put down before entering the building.

    Again I'm not hypocritical at all. Shoot black folks if they charge the capitol. Shoot white folks too. I'm in favor of equal opportunity distribution of 0.223/5.56/9mm rounds

    A lot of you guys want to shoot the BLM protestors who attack police stations while ignoring the white mob that stormed the capitol on Jan 6th

    You guys are the hypocrites, not me.
     
  26. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    They were trying to keep Pence, Pelosi, AOC, etc. from being hung by the mental midgets.
     
  27. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Were any of those clowns in the chambers? If they were, that's on them for being that stupid.

    There was no mention of the underground trams tot he office buildings being penetrated or invaded. Those would be much more difficult for the attackers to get to and control. Hell, even the Senate cafeteria doors are reinforced and lock.
     
  28. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    At least A24 has values. Bad values yes, but he has his way. If I couldn’t afford to sponsor, I wouldn’t either.
     
  29. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    There were people in the chamber when the Q idiot was shot, correct? I think Oklahoma's own MarkWayne was in there.
     
  30. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    To be clear Dion runs this site almost single handedly works at another job and doesn't get paid to do this here at HF
    If someone likes HF enough to come here and postswhy should't they contribute?

    It is NOT sponsor shaming It is trying to help Dion to keep this place going. It is insulting to suggest othewrise.
     
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