Band and Cheer Stuff

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by Chop, Apr 27, 2019.

  1. Boo ou

    Boo ou < 25 Posts

    One big one written by a slave trader. Amazing Grace
     
  2. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    An ex-slave trader.
    Oh wait, guess that doesn't matter to some groups. You know, those people who have lived perfect lives.
     
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  3. Giovanni Jones

    Giovanni Jones 2,500+ Posts

    I was wondering when/if someone would bring up John Newton and Amazing Grace. I wish I had a $1 for every time I heard the tale in church about how John Newton had a spiritual awakening while captaining a slave ship during a great storm; renounced slavery, and wrote Amazing Grace. Of course they left a few details out. Such as ..

    John Newton wrote the poem around 1772. It wasn't put to music until around 1732 (about 42 years after he died).

    It was in 1748 when he had his spiritual conversion during a storm a sea while aboard the slave ship Greyhound. Newton returned in 1748 to Liverpool, a major port for the Triangle Trade. Partly due to the influence of his father's friend Joseph Manesty, he obtained a position as first mate aboard the slave ship Brownlow, bound for the West Indies via the coast of Guinea. After his return to England in 1750, he made three voyages as captain of the slave ships Duke of Argyle (1750) and African (1752–53 and 1753–54). After suffering a severe stroke in 1754, he gave up seafaring, while continuing to invest in Manesty's slaving operations.

    It wasn't until 1788 (4 decades after his spiritual conversion) that he went full-blown abolitionist, writing the pamphlet Thoughts Upon the Slave Trade. Kind of late to the party, but better late than never.
     
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  4. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

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  5. Ajo Macho

    Ajo Macho 500+ Posts

    The dates here jump all over the place, so to simplify (and with a small addition of my own Googling):

    1748: Spiritual conversion after near-fatal storm at sea
    1748-50: First mate on slave ship
    1750-54: Captains various slave ships
    1754: Suffers stroke, gives up seafaring
    1772: Writes the poem "Amazing Grace"
    1788: Publicly becomes abolitionist and writes pamphlet
    1807: Slave trade is outlawed in the United Kingdom
    1807: Dies
    1835: "Amazing Grace" is set to music
     
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  6. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Hopefully, Croomes comes from the “play it loud” school of thought.
    :bevo:
     
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  7. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    Well back then I don't recall him, or anyone else for that matter, complaining about The Eyes. I'm hoping for Cliffs sake that they hired him simply because he's outstanding and not because of the color of his skin. They could have hired any number of qualified alums currently teaching at other universities....
     
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  8. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    No, I mean I hope he wants the band to play the songs LOUD/loudly. There was a time (late 80s), when our band was out-volumed by much smaller visiting bands.

     
  9. LHABSOB

    LHABSOB 1,000+ Posts

    Well hot damn. I'm starting to regain hope for my university and my Longhorn Band. Great hire.
     
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  10. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    Good question.
     
  11. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    LHABSOB,

    Thank you. Not knowing squat about what happens over there, I value your opinion, so I shall keep my blood pressure intact for the time being.

    :beertoast:
     
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  12. El Sapo

    El Sapo Bevo's BFF

    All brass no brakes? :smokin:
     
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  13. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    I like it.
     
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  14. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    I always say the woodwinds are there just for show. Can't hear them anyway.
     
  15. Giovanni Jones

    Giovanni Jones 2,500+ Posts

    March Grandioso wouldn't sound the same without the piccolos, though. (You can sure hear them, an octave or two above everyone else)
     
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  16. Giovanni Jones

    Giovanni Jones 2,500+ Posts

    And since Croomes is coming over from LSU, I assuming that he's steeped in the "play loud" tradition.

     
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  17. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    Well yes. I think that's why they don't march flutes. You'd never hear em.
     
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  18. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    Man...I hope so!
     
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  19. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Anf that dear heart, is what confounds me about the whole ta do.

    Thanks for clearing up the dates Ajo, it puzzles me how he kept the slave ship trading going for so long ‘after’ his conversion. Don’t follow that part.
     
  20. LHABSOB

    LHABSOB 1,000+ Posts

    Safe to say he won't bring the "neck" chant/song from LSU??
     
  21. LHABSOB

    LHABSOB 1,000+ Posts

    I'm playing in a Longhorn alumni band golf tournament on Monday at UT Golf Club. Going to get a picture there with Croomes for you guys. I don't view this as a token hire. He is family and he's coming home.

    Here's the link for any golfers that are interested.
    Event home page - Horns Up Golf Classic 2021
     
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  22. Ajo Macho

    Ajo Macho 500+ Posts

    His spiritual awakening had nothing to do with slavery; he had a near-death experience and became a born-again Christian. We could get into a long discussion about whether religion has anything to do with morality, but that's way into West Mall territory, so let's not.

    Much later, he further saw the error of his ways and became an abolitionist, largely based on what he'd seen aboard slave ships. He wasn't so much a slave trader; he was a ship captain, and the cargo happened to be slaves. Yes, that makes him complicit, but evidently he didn't like what he saw.

    One could argue that it was hypocritical of him to be an abolitionist after many years in the slave trade, but you could also argue he was genuinely repentant. Hypocrisy and admitting fault are very different things; almost polar opposites. Based on a few things he said later in life, I get the idea he sincerely regretted his past:
    "It will always be a subject of humiliating reflection to me, that I was once an active instrument in a business at which my heart now shudders."
     
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  23. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    I think Cliff will do a great job. Hopefully he can talk some sense into the woke students. Keep LHB about the music and school spirit and NOT about politics.
     
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  24. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

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  25. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    For a TexasEx coming home, I'd like to extend my heartfelt congratulations! Welcome back to the 40. :hookem:
     
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  26. Giovanni Jones

    Giovanni Jones 2,500+ Posts

    I wasn't kidding about those piccolos. Skip to the 2:20 mark in this video and you can hear them before you see them. (And note that some of the woodwind players are just carrying their instruments in this (Alumni Band) rehearsal, probably for the reason that 2003TexasGrad stated.)
     
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  27. Vino Bevo

    Vino Bevo Wine - how classy people get drunk

    Thanks for that Giovanni - I've always preferred watching the Alumni Band over the student band even before all the current issues and politics. They're reuniting to play the music they love with the people they enjoy playing it with, for no other reason than the goosebumps they get when doing so. You can see it on their faces in this video.
     
  28. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    But you know... she may have struck gold in there with that one...
     
  29. Giovanni Jones

    Giovanni Jones 2,500+ Posts

    Look closely in the early part of the video, there's a horn player marching with a prosthetic right leg (at far right in the video). That's love & dedication right there.
     
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  30. CMA 5.110

    CMA 5.110 25+ Posts


    Vino Bevo, As a LHB alum (graduated in 2000) I feel you summed up the feeling of playing in the alumni band very well with this statement. I last attended alumni band in 2018 after not participating in it for nearly 10 years (life and kids happened.) I say this with no shame.. when we were on the field at halftime I got overwhelmed and cried tears of joy as I played. It reminded me how much I enjoyed playing for the university I love and doing it with some of my best friends....
     
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