Peter The Great

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  1. Billy Dale

    Billy Dale The History of Longhorn Sports through 2014

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  2. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    I do love me some Pete Gardere. He was paid the highest compliment of all by OU fans after his record 4th win over them as a starter, when he was entering the tunnel, the OU fans chanted "Graduate! Graduate!".
     
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  3. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    Incomplete Pete. Sure Texas beat OU all 4 years he started so he owns that lore, but there's more to being a great QB than beating OU.
     
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  4. Billy Dale

    Billy Dale The History of Longhorn Sports through 2014

    He did more than beat OU- Here are some non-OU stats for you.

    PETER SET MANY RECORDS IN HIS 4 YEARS AT TEXAS,
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    · UT - Passing yards by a freshman, season (1,511), surpassed by Shea Morenz in 1993 · UT - Passing yards, season (2364), surpassed by James Brown in 1995

    · UT - Passing yards, career (7,396), surpassed by Brown in 1997

    · UT - Highest Completion Percentage (min 100 attempts) (57.52%), season, surpassed by Major Applewhite in 1999

    · UT - Total offense, career (7,409), surpassed by Brown in 1997

    · UT - Fastest to 1,000 yards in a single season (5 games), tied Bret Stafford, tied by Morenz, surpassed by Brown in 1995

    · UT - Fastest to 2,000 yards in a single season (9 games), tied by Brown, surpassed by Applewhite in 1999

    · UT - Starts, career (41), surpassed by Colt McCoy in 2009

    · UT - Games by a quarterback, career (44), surpassed by Applewhite in 2001

    · UT - Attempts, season (298), surpassed by Applewhite in 1999

    · UT - Attempts, career (1025), surpassed by Applewhite in 2001

    · UT - Completions, game (24), tied by Morenz in 1993, surpassed by Brown in 1996

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    · UT - Completions, season (166), surpassed by Morenz in 1993

    · UT - Completions, career (561), surpassed by Applewhite in 2001

    · UT - lowest percentage of passes intercepted (minimum 300 passes), career (4.5%), surpassed by Brown in 1997

    · UT - Interceptions, career (45), tied by McCoy 2009

    · UT - Touchdown passes, game (4), tied Rick McIvor, Randy McEachern, Clyde Littlefield; surpassed by Brown in 1994

    · UT - Touchdown passes, career (37), surpassed by Brown in 1997
     
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  5. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Quit looking big picture...

    Beating the land thieves four times gruntles many...
     
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  6. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    And he is still the only one ever to do it. It is an accomplishment that shouldn't be minimized, even after all these years.
     
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  7. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Billy,

    Didn't Peter parlay all that into a pretty good gig as a "ghost QB" on a popular TV show?
     
  8. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 5,000+ Posts

    Also led the ill fated "Shock the Nation" tour of 1990.
    After going 10-1 and reaching #3 in the nation only to get beat down by Miami in the Cotton Bowl.
    He will always be Peter the Great in my book
     
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  9. Billy Dale

    Billy Dale The History of Longhorn Sports through 2014

    Gardere returned to Austin in 1997 and was the passing coach and stand-in for stars James Van Der Beek and Paul Walker in the 1999 movie Varsity Blues filmed in Austin. He briefly worked as recruiter of NFL prospects for a sports agent company in Austin.varsity Blues.jpg
     
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  10. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    I thought he did the passing for Friday Night Lights?
     
  11. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    He also had a career 54% completion rate (thus incomplete pete) with 46 interceptions (slightly more than one interception per game) while going 26-19 even with that 10 win season. The year after shock the nation he only completed 50% for the year which is terrible. Pretty much all of the records he held came because he was a 4 year starter and really one of the first true passing QB's for Texas.

    I don't dislike the guy, I just think he's given way too much credit for having one good season and beating OU 4 times. I'll hop off now because I know this is an unpopular opinion.
     
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  12. I_Dont_Exist

    I_Dont_Exist 1,000+ Posts

    Unpopular but 100% correct. If he doesn't hold the.record for most interceptions returned for TD's he's got to be damn close.
     
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  13. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

    Given the foregoing I propose the new name Peter-the-Mostly-Average-Who-Beat-OU-Four-Times
     
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  14. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Or maybe

    Peter-the-Occasionally-Great-Who-Beat-OU-Four-Times
     
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  15. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

    But was he ever really great or was greatness attributed only to the four OU wins? It's time we clear this up
     
  16. CreakyHorn

    CreakyHorn 500+ Posts

    I think we need an actual game to talk about... Anything on tap tomorrow?
     
  17. IvanDiabloHorn

    IvanDiabloHorn 1,000+ Posts

    I cannot remember a qb at Texas have more dropped passes and deflected passes from the receiver’s hands for interceptions than Gardere.
    I remember a receiver dropping a perfect pass and the fan next to me yelling “Gardere what are you doing?” I asked him if Pete was supposed to run down the field and catch his own pass. There were a whole lot of incompletions and interceptions that weren’t Gardere’s fault.
     
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  18. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Ok so he wasn’t the greatest but beating OU 4 times is it’s own unique and unequalled glory. Just imagine how grateful we would be could someone pull that off today. Winning and/or losing to OU makes for a season of happy or angst for me.
     
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  19. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Pete was a solid college quarterback for his time, and his records reflect a really really poor history of passing QB numbers (Not saying we didn’t have good passers, but throwing 25 passes in a game was basically unheard of until the the late 80s. So he wasn’t exactly competing against Dan Marino numbers.

    His record wasn’t great, but he was also playing on some pretty bad teams with some pretty unimaginative offenses, basically mired in the throes of mediocrity. So I always appreciate guys like him and Brett Stafford for some good wins with some so-so teams.
     
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  20. Texex81

    Texex81 500+ Posts

    Peter the Great: Patron Saint of Texas/OU
     
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  21. Creek

    Creek 1,000+ Posts

    What made him great were the OU wins. I think we were underdogs each time which was especially big. He had the “it” factor to not count him out until the whistle blew.
    Didn’t he punt a little?
     
  22. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    He ran ~50 yards for a TD against a$m in 1990. IIRC it was on 4th down.
     
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  23. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    Wasn't OU recovering from Barry Switzer’s oust? So they were struggling those years….
     
  24. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    OU was ranked 16th or higher all four years while Texas went 5-6, 5-6, 6-5 & 10-2 during those years not in that order. But OU ended each year 7-4, 8-3, 9-3 & 5-4-2 so they were definitely not in their prime under Gary Gibbs.
     
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  25. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    HE BEAT THE LAND THIEVES FOUR TIMES!!! FOUR!!!

    The rest is a blur...and doesn't matter now.
     
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  26. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Do we care about a cockroaches record when we squash it? No, we don't. Do we care about the record of a land thief when it is beaten? No, we don't.
     
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