Texas Abortion Law

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Mr. Deez, Sep 8, 2021.

  1. humahuma

    humahuma 1,000+ Posts

    Was it on 6th street because there was after hours partying I intended and it was interesting and inviting
     
  2. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    In Temple, Tx.
     
  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Temple's an interesting city, because it's got a lot of ghetto, but some of the "elite" really think they're high class. Back in 2017, we went to a steak place in downtown Temple with my wife's parents (who live in Belton). I forget what the place was called, but it had a douchie, British-sounding name. The food was good enough, but it has the most pretentious wait staff I've ever seen - worse than anything I've encountered on the East Coast or any big city in Europe. They looked at us and treated us like we were friggin' Leslie Cochran asking to take a bath in the kitchen sink.

    I felt like telling the server, "I know that being this close to Waco, everything seems classy and upscale because the tap water isn't brown, but these folks are from Belton, and to them, your restaurant may as well be in Skid Row." But I held my tongue. I did tip the minimum socially acceptable amount. My father-in-law told me to fleece the guy entirely, but I couldn't go that far. It really pissed him off, and they never went back.
     
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  4. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    That's Cheeves Bros. My business was located on the other side of the corner from it.
     
  5. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Who would have thought such debauchery went on in Temple? Iatrogenic had the pleasure of chopping cotton and hauling hay for $1 per hour in the cool summer climes :smh:of a small town just east of Rogers on Hwy 36. Granny always said there was nothing good in the Big City!
     
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  6. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I would have preferred the drunken debauchery of your place
     
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  7. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    They really treated you like dirt there? Damn. I always go to Longhorn Steakhouse myself. I've never stepped into Cheeves and I doubt I ever will.
     
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  8. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    If you didn’t perform a procedure, you wouldn’t know if it was an ectopic pregnancy. This is a good example of an exception because no fetus is going to survive an ectopic pregnancy.

    I’m not really sure why you compared ectopic pregnancies to drunk driving deaths because the comparison is irrelevant. For example, the number of ectopic pregnancies is almost immeasurably small when compared to the number of stars in the universe.
     
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  9. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  10. n64ra

    n64ra 1,000+ Posts

    How long did it take her to realize everyone in Hollywood is a Democrat? I knew that in middle school.
     
  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Better late than never.
     
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  12. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    As broad as this thing has been written, Plaintiffs might as well sue the electric utility and Oncor that provides electricity to the abortion mill. Same goes for suppliers of goods and services. No telling where the line is that any given judge will deem an act is too attenuated.
     
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  13. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    This sounds like a crazy exaggeration, but if we get a trial judge who wants to interpret the statute broadly, it could happen. My guess is that we'll see quite a few appeals. Democratic-leaning appeals courts (like El Paso and now Dallas, Houston, and Austin) will interpret it very narrowly. Republican-leaning appeals courts (like Texarkana, Waco, Eastland, Amarillo, etc.) will interpret it broadly. You'll see the Texas Supreme Court step in, and my guess is that they'll end up somewhere in between but closer to the Republican appellate courts.
     
  14. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    I really wish this could have been timed to happen after mid-terms. There are a couple of things that emotionally charges the left enough to vote big. DJT seems to be one, but abortion is certainly one. I don't agree with Roe V Wade as it stands now but if they gut it, you can bet that will item one on most dem commercials next year.
     
  15. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Conversely, it will also be something that got some conservatives off of the couch who often sit the mid-terms out because there was nothing of note on the ballot for their precinct...
     
  16. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Maybe if the USSC upholds the Texas law the really kooky Commie states will secede before the mid-terms. That would be even better.
     
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  17. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I'm not sweating it too much. The people who are truly motivated by abortion rights are already voting and already voting solidly Democratic. It's also a difficult issue to exploit, because Roe primarily affects state laws. If Roe is overturned, I don't think Republicans in Congress should start making some big push for national abortion laws. They should step back and let the states address the issue, which is how the law should have always been. If they're stupid and unprincipled enough to make a big national abortion ban a priority, then all bets are off.
     
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  18. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Read this. Restrictions on abortion is actually quite popular.
    <i>Dobbs </i>abortion case threatens Democrats' house of cards
     
  19. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I can’t promise the GOP won’t try a ban but it would only occur after they sweep the house and senate- so not a 2022 issue. My guess dems will claim GOP will do this during the 2022 campaign regardless of truth.
     
  20. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Dems will claim it to freak people out. However, we should not feed the idiocy. It would be politically stupid and blatantly unconstitutional. We shouldn't tear down one tyrannical legal structure that doesn't care about the law only to replace it with another.
     
  21. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I think GOP is fairly anti-federal mandate at the moment.
     
  22. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I think the party is split. I think most Republicans are pro-life but respect federalism. However, a large number of them do not. Keep in mind that there is a "Human Life Amendment" in the platform and a call for a national ban on sex-selection abortions and abortions based on disabilities.
     
  23. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Does anybody have any vaguely legitimate argument for aborting a child simply because it is either male or female?
     
  24. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I don't think they do, but that isn't the point. At the state level, I don't mind banning abortion for this reason and almost any reason. However, there is absolutely no basis to think the federal government has the legitimate authority to ban them. The proper level of authority is at the state level as it is for everything not given to Congress in the Constitution.
     
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  25. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Ok Deez There you go AGAIN with that pesky constitution.
    The Squad is asking you to stop.
     
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  26. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    Would anyone answer truthfully if the law included any sort of stipulation in that direction? Check the appropriate option for why you're getting an abortion...
     
  27. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    You would be surprised.
     
  28. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    The irony is that, if the Dems try to claim unconstitutional mandate, it blows up in their face given all of the unconstitutional mandates they have been pushing for the past year. They would then trot out the 'but this is different' card, but the reality is that it isn't.
     
  29. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Very few would be that dumb (though some would be). A ban specifically on sex-selection abortion would be a bit of a virtue signaling law. It wouldn't make a big difference, but it would look righteous to the right people - a little like the old "don't tell a cop you take it in the garage" laws. In other words, it's a goofy idea.
     
  30. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    That may be true, but I still wouldn't want a national mandate. I'm pro-life, but I don't put that ahead of the constitutional order and federalist system. I also think the federal government would do a really crappy job enforcing such a law.
     

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