2023 Recruiting - Football

Discussion in 'Recruiting' started by Joe Fan, Nov 15, 2018.

  1. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    seems like a reasonable topic to me...endless supply?
     
  2. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    We dont need another receiver.
    Right?
     
  3. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Addison is one of the best WRs in the country. You get him if its possible.
     
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  4. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    Can he play DE?
     
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  5. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Afraid not.
     
  6. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    No, but a TE can.
     
  7. I_Dont_Exist

    I_Dont_Exist 1,000+ Posts

    Mathis commits to Nebraska.
     
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  8. cnb

    cnb 5,000+ Posts

    All signs pointed to Tx. Visits here 3 times. Neb once.
    Big blow. Need some DE.
     
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  9. UTexRulz23

    UTexRulz23 500+ Posts

    $$$$$
     
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  10. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    Bummer, but not a shocker. As I opined several days ago, I suspect that the visibility here intimidated him. He can be mediocre at Nebraska and no one will notice. At Texas, he would either be a highly visible difference-maker, or a disappointment.

    I also agree that the money made a difference.

    I’m not impressed.
     
  11. I_Dont_Exist

    I_Dont_Exist 1,000+ Posts

    Which is now permissible and no longer evidence of a tainted recruitment.
     
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  12. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    Although not a brilliant or unique take, NIL is really screwing with the game.

    In my fantasy world — and of course it won’t happen, I would love to see Sark or CDC come out and say that “Texas is not interested in getting into a bidding war with schools like A&M or Nebraska.” I know. That’s a pipe dream. But imagine if Texas had engaged in such a bidding war? What message would that have sent to players already on the roster, and some very good ones? In fact, one has to wonder how Mathis’ new teammates at NU will receive him. Open arms? Perhaps outwardly…

    Not sure if this genie can ever be put back in the bottle, or managed to any extent. The NCAA is powerless so unless a coach like Saban goes out of character and takes a stand, this out-of-control spiral will continue unabated. And even then, who knows if it would make a difference.

    Perhaps until players (many of them) like Mathis are a complete bust will anything change.
     
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  13. longhornlegend

    longhornlegend 1,000+ Posts

    All you can do is wish him well. If GP were the DC this would have been different. Texas has enough DL talent that this should be a non issue. If its not then its scheme and coaching. We definitely landed elite DL class and Finley is already here and is a difference maker for any normal D. PK better produce results. I dont know if any of you can remember having enough speed in the secondary to have corner blitzs? The blitz scheme last year could have been diagnosed by a 7th grader. Needless to say I am not a PK fan again because he sat at the helm of the worst D in UT history. If he produces then thats great but if not Sark better move him to special assistant and put GP in there just to save Sarks job.
     
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  14. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    Legend, I don’t see it that way. In fact, I now believe that “he chose to transfer” for financial reasons, looking for the highest bidder. Given that his family lives in the shadows of DKR and his former coach is now on staff, why in the world would he choose Nebraska. “Nebraska?”

    It’s all about the money. Certainly from a “short term financial perspective,” he made the right decision. Long term? We shall see.
     
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  15. 1sahorn

    1sahorn 1,000+ Posts

    Nebraska got him. Word I hear is that they offered significantly more $620K?) in NIL than we did. Blows me away that we were "$ whipped" at a position of great need.
     
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  16. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Seems like a risky bet.
     
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  17. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Said before and will continue to say it, NIL sucks and will ruin college football. Heck already has.
     
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  18. longhornlegend

    longhornlegend 1,000+ Posts

    I just dont understand the continued comments about such a huge need position. I dont think anyone knew that Jacoby Jones was the key to last years defense but when he went down in the ou game, the defense certainly was adversely impacted. But given that, anyone see a pass rush last year out of pk's defense? Anyone? The answer is no and thats on the dc. Some have said the players quit or didnt buy in and again, thats on the coaches. I have never understood that concept so perhaps thats me but I dont care if its checkers, if you are a competitor you play to win. If we had kids who didnt embody that then for goodness sake, put them on the bench. We have had one after another of excellent recruiting classes with the exception of OL. Almost every kid on Texas had offers from a number of prominent schools. The coaches job is to put the best product on the field with what you have and our dc is not doing that. If he doesnt produce by ou, he will no longer be the DC and GP will assume that role. Sark cant allow kansas and really any school put up 50+ on Texas. That is inexcusable!
     
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  19. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    I’m not inclined in April to give up on our 2022 defense before they even take the field for game 1. True, they might stink, but frankly with or without Mathis, I believe that the unit will be improved, perhaps considerably. But yes, we badly need help on the edge.

    Back to Mathis, I don’t like the idea of being manipulated into a bidding war for a kid’s services. That just rubs me the wrong way. Let Nebraska have him. If it was all about the money — and on the surface that appears to be the case — perhaps we’re better off without him.
     
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  20. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 5,000+ Posts

    NIL is the wild west right now but it will work itself out.
    I agree that if Mathis has great confidence in his abilities and expects to be a high draft pick, then the exposure at Texas is what he would be looking for. Even if the NIL dollars are less.
    At some point the the truly great players relish what they get with NIL but always remain focused on getting to the next level.
    NIL is chicken feed compared to what the future may bring.
    Others will chase NIL, get fat and lazy and hopefully get a degree to fall back on.
    I believe there will be some form of regulation in the future concerning NIL.
     
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  21. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Not by itself. Maybe some form of regulation will be forthcoming but I doubt anyone affiliated with NCAA is capable. It sucks - both NIL and NCAA.
     
  22. beijinghorn1

    beijinghorn1 500+ Posts

    Not entirely sure it was NLI money. The kid wants to go to the NFL. From my perspective, NLI money and playing time are the only 2 things UT can sell a defensive player. Hard to sell player development (especially as it seemed the defense got progressively worse last year) and a route to the NFL based upon last years defense. Sure the Nebraska defense was not great, but it was not aweful or at least it was not UT bad.
     
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  23. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    I believe you are overrating exposure at UT. Therefore your premise is faulty.
     
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  24. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    Gotta disagree, and agree with moon. We will almost certainly have at least two games and perhaps more than will be featured nationally, Bama & OU. Nebraska will have zero and with no disrespect intended, who really cares about NU outside of their fan base and outside of Lincoln?

    Additionally, there is a little doubt that Bijan Robinson will be a high profile Heisman candidate, attracting attention. Then there’s Worthy. There is also the intrigue of the highest rated 2021 recruit, Ewers, and how he does.

    The point wasn’t whether Texas is back or if we deserves the audience, but that Texas will draw the audience, regardless. So certainly compared to the Nebraska, that point seems indisputable.
     
  25. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    Reasonable points.
    I just believe pro scouts know whats what. They know the real deal no matter what school a top recruit attends. He is certainly on every scouts radar so it doesn't matter if he is with nebraska or texas. His performance this year will be thoroughly watched.
    If texas exposure was really pertinent then maybe we would have had a few drafted.
     
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  26. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    You’re probably right. I’m just annoyed. The kid had a chance to make a difference and instead he just took the money.
     
  27. bishophorn

    bishophorn 500+ Posts

    Mathis was going to be a one year guy anyway. No NIL money is really worth that gamble. Of all the one year guys we got from the portal or that transferred as a grad, Calvin Anderson the OT from Rice was a starter from day one.
    None of the other one-year portals were anything to write home about. Most were part time players when a starter got injured or playing on special teams or never.
     
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