2022 House and Senate election

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  1. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    Dear Libs,

    Please stay dejected and don't vote! You can't change anything anyway. :)
     
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  2. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Libs,
    What guy said. Be nihilistic about voting. All the cool libs are doing it.
     
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  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Maybe somebody will start a "Blacks for David Duke" campaign.

     
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  4. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    The good news - we have a chance at the Michigan governorship (and she's hot). We didn't put the Missouri Senate seat on the board as a flip opportunity for Democrats.

    The bad news - we most likely threw away the Arizona Senate seat, and unless there's a very late shift, we're going to throw away the Arizona governorship. We also threw away a House seat in Michigan.
     
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  5. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    The good news - Blake Masters primary win shows that Republicans in Arizona are actually conservative. He understands the issues very well and can clearly articulate solutions.

    The bad news - Arizonans no longer get to pick from liberal-D and liberal-R.
     
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  6. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Not so sure about AZ...for either position. Turnout by Republicans far outweighed the Demx turnout. So unless there was one helluva crossover vote, seats are definitely in play and lean red...
     
  7. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I don't have a big problem with Masters on issues, but in a purple state against a reasonably likable candidate, he is a long shot at best. And there were no liberal-Rs on the ballot.
     
  8. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    The Dems didn't have a hotly contested statewide race. The Rs did.
     
  9. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Which tells you part of what you need to know about their electorate...

    INFORMED voters turn out even for the boring school board and bond referendum ballots...
     
  10. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    To quote the great Mr. Wolfe, let's not start.....

    I got very excited about poor midterm turnout a few years ago on the GOP side and predicted a win by a Democratic candidate for the House in a traditionally red district. Once the main election hit all of the voters showed me why I was incorrect in my analysis based off of a pimary.
     
  11. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Kelly not too likable nowadays. Mask has been removed.
     
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  12. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I would love to see Masters in the Senate just for the entertainment value.
     
  13. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I think you can interpret some from primary numbers if we're comparing apples to apples. However, if one side has a hotly contested race and the other doesn't, turnout will usually be lower in the primary. It's not always indicative of the ultimate outcome. For example, Republicans outvoted Democrats by about 140,000 votes in the 2018 Arizona race. The GOP still lost the general election.

    Ultimately, the Arizona GOP is in an ugly civil war with McCain/Flake types on one side and Arpaio/Ward types on the other side. The latter is winning. It feels a lot like the GOP battles in California in the late '90s. That didn't end well.
     
  14. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I think he'd be entertaining in the Senate too. I just don't think I'll see him in the Senate.
     
  15. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    Apparently, being 'actually Republican' means you are...
    Opinion | Arizona Just Chose a Senate Candidate More Extreme Than Donald Trump

    I can't read the article but just going off the headline - more extreme that Trump. LOL
     
  16. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

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  17. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Between now and the election, that's going to be how every liberal publication/broadcast news show talks about anybody even slightly to the right of Whoopi Goldberg or Bernie Sanders.
     
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  18. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Just out of curiosity, how do you reconcile with these guys on trade? I consider myself a moderate on trade, but you're pretty rigidly pro-free trade. Most of these guys are not.
     
  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I remember when George H.W. Bush was extreme until after the election. All it takes is for a Republican politician to lose. Then he's not so bad conpared to whoever is next.
     
  20. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I vehemently disagree on trade restrictions. If Masters is a trade restriction guy, I will clearly disagree on that. I don't like tariffs for sure. The only thing I could agree with if there was some incentive to develop alternative supply chains outside of China. It could help on several different levels. But Trump's tariffs hurt American businessmen pretty bad in several industries. He should never make it harder for American producers to export. Which was actually contradictory to what he said he wants.

    Masters though might be a bit a different bird on trade. Some of the names and ideas he references could be evidence that he would be very good on trade.
     
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  21. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  22. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  23. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I'm glad he won, but it's a R+8 district. In a GOP year, it should be pretty easy to hold a district like that.
     
  24. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I guess not everybody in Ilhan Omar's district hates Jews. Most of them do, but 48 percent of them don't.

    Link
     
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  25. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    I don't know who Samuels is, but (s)he can't be worse than Omar. Then again, I'm not a self-loathing whitey.
     
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  26. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    People complaining that Omar could have been beaten if certain Dem groups didn’t sit on the sidelines.
     
  27. EDT

    EDT 1,000+ Posts

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  28. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

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  29. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    This info is clearly anecdotal, but I was in the Valley yesterday, traveling through Willacy and Cameron counties. I saw plenty of campaign signs for Mayra Flores, but not a single one for her opponent. Gives me hope she can pull it off.
     
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  30. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Flores campaign slogan should be, “voting for my opponent is like eating a **** taco”.
     
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