Fall Camp 2022

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by Godz40acres, Jul 26, 2022.

  1. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Those guys pictured + J Whitt + Washington should still make for one of the best WR groups in the conference.

    Then there’s Keilan Robinson catching passes in the flats, and wheel routes out of the backfield, with gross speed mismatches over some hapless linebackers.
     
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  2. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Chop?
    So you're saying there's a chance?:headbang:
     
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  3. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    Of course there's a chance.
    But make no mistake about it...
    From all accounts Neyor..of our WR group..looked the most NFL ready on the field.
    Junior was our most experienced olineman
    Collins was looking to emerge as part of the solution on the edge.
    And RJ could miss Bama.
    These are major blows...

    Having said this, the team is deeper than they have been...not saying much...But there is still alot of talent to send on the field.
    I personally am about as concerned about the mental strength and resiliency of the team as the loss of playmaking. Make no mistake...you don't go from being as fragile as we've been to very convinced and resilient in the face of headwinds in one off season. (Hard to tell if Im talking players or fans here)
    For sure, these early losses will be felt one way or the other, but I personally believe we will see a much tougher, more resilient team...don't like these early troubles, though.
    I can't wait to see what this team's made of...
    :hookem:
     
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  4. OrangeShogun

    OrangeShogun 500+ Posts

    I thought Washington transferred?
     
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  5. ATX_Horns

    ATX_Horns 250+ Posts

    Freakin' Great Post .. HOOK EM' !!!
     
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  6. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Yes he did.
     
  7. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Rain
    Thank you for giving a great objective look
    We need the positivity.

    My response to Chop was a Dumb and Dumber reference
    BUT it got such a great response from you that I call Smart and Smarter .
    :headbang:
     
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  8. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    He meant Shipley.
     
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  9. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    If you include Barron and Collins, one could argue that we have already lost over 20% of our projected starters, and the fall camp is only two weeks in. Is this simply a result of bad luck, coincidence, or something more?

    I always wonder if the strength and conditioning folks err to the side of muscling up and endurance, at the expense of flexibility. I don’t have access to the regimen so I don’t know. (Perhaps others on this board do have access.) However, what I do believe to be the case is that flexibility is underrated, and that muscled up players like (just one example) Whittington, are more prone to injury.
     
  10. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Oh no.
    The WR room takes another hit.

    Hope J Whitt stays healthy.
    He’s an elite talent.

    :bevo::bevo::bevo:
     
  11. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    From post #209 on Friday (Jordan Whittington's efforts, on and off the field, have him hopeful for a standout junior season):

    When Steve Sarkisian arrived in Austin in 2021, he brought with him Torre Becton to implement a new strength and conditioning philosophy for the former top-50 player in the On3 Consensus. They had a plan for Whittington from the start.

    “I would say the difference would be more mobility, not as much strength and stuff like that,” Whittington said of their blueprint for him. “Me, I had a lot of operations, so just staying open, staying loose, staying mobile is something that we worked on.”

    That change helped him avoid soft tissue problems through the first six games of 2021, but football is a violent sport and collisions happen. Treatment and conditioning doesn’t do a whole lot when it comes to collarbones, and a broken clavicle is what cost Whittington four games last season.

    Whittington said Tuesday he shows up early prior to practice in order to get treatment, almost living in the UT training room. Recent facility renovations have helped in this regard, as some of the treatments Texas players used to have to go off campus to receive are now in the fully redone Moncrief athletic facility.
     
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  12. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    Going into 2020 and 2021, all we ever heard about was Omeire and Alexis, and now they're chopped liver for some reason.

    Cain makes highlight reel catches in practice, but that's against our DBs, so I take it with a grain of salt.

    Savion Red looks like the next coming of Devin Duvernay. He has a really strong frame even if he's not a big target, but he has the speed and the intelligence to make things happen when it doesn't look like there's a lot of room. I wouldn't be surprised if he developed into our 4th option to catch passes and run some jet sweeps or whatever.

    Not sure how much I trust Milton after ISU's staff weaned him off the playbook for the last two seasons. If he could look anything like his 2019 self, then good, otherwise I think Brenen Thompson should be getting the backup looks for Whitt's spot.

    But Omeire and Alexis... these guys would be penciled in to start if it wasn't for Worthy's and Neyor's arrivals. With Neyor out, Omeire will get a crack at it, but Alexis is damn smart and has the tools to be a "1 out of 3 downs" kind of player.
     
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  13. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    1st Fall Scrimmage reporting by the IT guys. Really good info about...
    • QB's
    • Tucker-Dorsey
    • Best play for the offense
    • Jonathon Brooks
    • Offensive Line + Kelvin Banks
    • Secondary
    • Receivers/Tight Ends
    • Kickers
    • Team maturing
    • QB's again
    • Receivers again
    [Cued to after they talk about the injuries because we've had updates since this video was made.]
    WARNING: Language may be offensive. The word
    predicated
    is used.


     
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  14. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Dion,

    Which sponsor on HornFans is in charge of making sure we have an ample supply of Poke Salad? Have several pounds delivered to Mr Johnson
     
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  15. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    something more

    I won't say it aloud

    Starts with c and ends with d and ryhmes with dersd
     
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  16. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    I watch Burton’s videos on YouTube and generally like them. There are occasionally some very good takes — from folks like Eric Nahlin & Paul Wadlington (excellent) and some, not so much.

    When Wells praised Johathon Books on that video, comparing his vision to that of Keaontay Ingram, he lost me. Ingram had no vision from what I observed.
     
  17. Creek

    Creek 1,000+ Posts

    Maybe I’m wrong, but this team simply wasn't prepared for full speed. The team looked like fried dung in the spring and this many injuries this early, is a joke. I doubt tough solo workouts happened in the Summer.
     
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  18. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    If you have followed JWhit this pre-season, he has stopped bulking up and is having daily treatments for flexibility.
     
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  19. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

  20. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    This guy does a good job producing game highlight videos. Don't know how good his commentary is knowledge-wise cuz this is the only one of those I've watched.

    I cued it to the start of Hudson Card. If you want to understand his scoring method, you can go back to the start.

    Texas QB Throwdown Card vs Ewers
     
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  21. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    I am aware. And to me, he was a poster child for the wrong type of training. Or let’s say, obsessive weight training. It was obvious, early. Apparently no one persuaded him to change his training until after several injuries.

    I am a believer in flexibility training like swimming and yoga. If I am not mistaken, they put Earl in the pool a few times for this purpose.
     
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  22. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    I hope we get it turned around, and quick. We sliced through ULa like warm butter, but we were not at all ready for a hard-hitting, fundamentally sound team like Arkansas early last year. They cleaned our clock.

    I think we're a lot tougher as a team than in the Herman years, but we'll find out rather early in the season this year...
     
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  23. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    I'm no athletic trainer, but...

    Different positions should train differently IMHO. Big linemen with 15-20% (or more) body fat can concentrate a lot on gaining strength, building more muscle, and power lifting. But even the big linemen should get plenty of flexibility training. It helps with balance, body control, quickness, and injury prevention.

    Also, it's unorthodox for this part of the country, but I kind of wish the big linemen (OL + interior DL) would do at least some training in wrestling in the off season. Lots of benefits to be had: leverage, balance, body control, etc.
     
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  24. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Now that's a big and sofistokatud word for the Hornfans crowd.
     
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  25. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    Oh God not this sh*t again. Please I hope this isn't the case. It'll be 7-6 all over again if true. And losing Neyor is massive.
     
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  26. NRHorn

    NRHorn 2,500+ Posts

    Does anyone here feel UT is better than last year? I Do.
    For crying out loud UT had one WR who stood out and he was an unproven FR.
    Worthy, JWhitt healthy, Tariqu, Troy, Brennan Thompson , Cain, Alexis, maybe Hall, word has it that he’s at least trying to get straight. A trio of really good TE’s.
    The OL still should be better, the LBs are better and I feel the DL will be better…
    Folks we should have been a 9 win team last year.
    UT has a young man named Bijan at RB and I do feel Brooks is going to suprise people.
    WE ARE GOING TO BE OKAY.
    Dam, I wished Neyor was good. Loosing Junior hurts as well, but enuf of this doom and gloom.
    We weren’t going to the playoffs anyway. So relax and live in the moment.
    Football is right around the corner.
    Haiku over.
     
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  27. cnb

    cnb 5,000+ Posts

    Injury update from Sark's PC

    • WR Isaiah Neyor (torn ACL) will miss the 2022 season.
    • OL Junior Angilau (torn ACL) will miss the season as well.
    • CB Jahdae Barron — (ankle) week to week
    • RB Roschon Johnson — (leg) week to week
    • DL Alfred Collins — week to week
    • OL Cole Hutson — week to week
     
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  28. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    I feel really bad for Neyor. Terrible break. Same for Angilau. But, the position groups with the most depth are WR, RB and OL, although the OL is very young as we all know. Assuming that we survive the rest of fall camp (fingers crossed), we should be OK.

    The challenges are the same: Will a QB step up? Will the O line be better? Really better… And will the D make a significant improvement. All three are possible, if not likely. To me though, it starts with the guy under center, and for now, we just don’t know.
     
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  29. KillerHorn

    KillerHorn 25+ Posts

    Every team has injuries, next man up!
     
  30. everette

    everette 250+ Posts

    We will never be OK; maybe alright, or better, but not OK!
     

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