Sark Needs to Start Card in Lawrence / Here’s Why

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by dukesteer, Nov 13, 2022.

  1. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    I may get some grief for this take, but perhaps not. I’ve analyzed it from a number of perspectives and have come to the conclusion that Card needs to start next Saturday.

    The only downside I can identify is the potential damage to Ewers’ psyche that could result. But frankly, I just don’t care. This kid chose to forgo his last year of high school because he was going to be in the NFL in 2024. He made his own bed, and now he has to deal with it. Let’s light a fire under his a**.

    So what’s the upside? There are many.

    Message to the team and Longhorn Nation:

    Regardless of who was at fault — and we all know that Sark might be the biggest culprit, but there is plenty of blame to go around — starting Card sends a message that the performance we saw last night and at OSU is not acceptable. In other words, Sark will be proactively doing something. It’s about time.

    Spark

    I am baffled to the point of anger that Sark didn’t understand at OSU and last night, that by changing quarterbacks mid-game, there is the potential to add a spark. Unless the replacement quarterback is absolutely inept, the whole nature of the game can change by changing quarterbacks. Just ask Dabo, or Nick.

    What if Card stinks It up?

    If that were to happen, then it reinforces the obvious, that Quinn Ewers is the right choice and that Quinn Ewers is the future, at least through 2023. Translation: That “helps” Ewers. It may also appease the fan base.

    Keeping Card in the Fold

    If Card plays well, it would create a real competition (if he stays) next Spring. And this time, there would not be a pre-ordained selection.

    Results

    We might be as bad or worse with Card. But then again, what happens if we beat Kansas, beat Baylor, and win the bowl game? Wouldn’t that be a good thing?

    Message to recruits.

    Replacing Ewers would send a strong message to the players we desperately covet. Simply, either perform, or you might get replaced. Might be music to Arch’s ears.
     
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  2. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    I find this post intriguing, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
     
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  3. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    It's hard to tell through a TV screen, but in my opinion either Ewers is a walking zombie or has no emotions at all except when someone drops a pass. Even then he just hangs his head. I swear toward the end of the game they panned to him while he was on the phone and it looked like he was about to cry. I guess that's emotion.

    I too see no to little downside to starting Card, but I'm not exactly sure there's really any upside either. I'm glad I'm not the coach.

    On a side note, if Quinn doesn't figure something out Manning might come in next year and take the starting job. He may not have experience, but Arch has a long pedigree of family who I'm certain has coached him up his entire life on the importance of leadership and what it means to try to take control of a game. Quinn doesn't seem to have either of those qualities.
     
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  4. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    QE confuses me. Maybe he really shows his talent in practice?
    OSU didn't recruit him because he was a nice guy.
    What happens in game?
     
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  5. Creek

    Creek 1,000+ Posts

    90% of the Longhorn people I talk to, think Ewers should of been riding pine from the Okie Lite halftime. Even some hippies in Austin that don’t follow Texas football told me this wkd. that Ewers isn’t good.

    It appears Sark would rather lose games than have a QB controversy. Which means he is either not worried about getting canned or stupid.
     
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  6. Dionysus

    Dionysus Idoit Admin

    I would argue that Ewers isn’t good right now, for whatever reason. He looked like a world-beater against OU, and yes I know they sucked that day, but he looked terrific. Who knows what’s happened with him lately.

    Agree with @dukesteer about Card starting this week. It is foolish to keep trotting an ineffective Ewers out there. He is hurting the team right now.
     
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  7. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    I agree 100%
    I think the team would respond in a very positive way to a Card start and we roll Baylor. I predict if we start Ewers that we will lose another close one squandering another otherwise winning effort. Which will be hugely demoralizing.
    If we lose to Baylor in this way,then I predict we lose to Kansas too.
     
  8. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Texas plays Kansas first. But, I get what you are saying.
     
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  9. Baseballgawd

    Baseballgawd 25+ Posts


    IMHO opinion, Texas got Luggenbilled on QE. He could never shut up. First sign he was wrong, the other Freshman at OSU started over him. I watched him play against Klubnik in State CG, CK schooled him all night. His passing motion sometimes looks NFL ish, othertimes it looks like a WTF. If Manning does beat him out, I see another transfer.
     
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  10. Your Wrong

    Your Wrong 500+ Posts

    This is all interesting. The general thought seemed to be Card was transferring after the season and after he graduated.

    Part of me does wonder whether this is all Sarks decision. People are footing the NIL bill not only for Ewers but others as well. Based on all I’ve ever read, I would not be surprised to hear that some folks do carry some weight in regards to the decision of who they’ll support.

    If Card started and does enough to give him a shot next year at starting, then there are potential issues. From an outsiders perspective, Card shouldn’t stay next year. If you’re Sark, you know this too. It won’t look good if Card leaves if he plays well to finish out the season. There would be considerable pressure on Card. He can’t do much right in some eyes, he doesn’t get equitable treatment, and anything short of dominating play will be a failure. And he risks next seasons opportunities.

    And here’s the deal, Ewers has two very poor games in which he was a major reason for poor play. Card lost the job after one poor game in which damn near the whole team played poorly. One got benched. One did not.

    Then there is next season. Our prospects are better next year if that QB gets the reps this year.

    So there are complexities to this. And I do think the real downsides to the future are playing Card. And I’ll argue on behal of his skill set and play to date with anyone.
     
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  11. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    I have trouble understanding Sark:
    1) surely he is not stupid, at this level,....right?
    2)) low level HS coaches could see the need for a QB change
    3) maybe since he was a QB back in the day he is too sympathetic.
    4) is he trying to lose games?
    5) his recruiting is better than good but he is in over his head as head coach approaching the level of Charlie
     
  12. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    He may be in over his head, still too soon to tell since he will have improved in year two, but nothing approaches the level of Strong. Sark can think on his feet when asked questions and isn't a cocky SOB like Herman.
     
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  13. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    QE has no business rocking that hideous mullet playing like that. Same for Sark and that pre-game suit.
     
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  14. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    YW, I have been a huge and relentless critic of Card. But players grow, and circumstances dictate tough decisions.

    Your observation about the complexities of the decision are on point. NIL, $. I also believe that by choosing Card now, Sark could be a risking a Sumlin-like, Murray + Allen scenario. While that wouldn’t be good, the dynamics are very different with Arch Manning in the fold.
     
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  15. 1sahorn

    1sahorn 1,000+ Posts

    I have nothing personal against Quinn. He's probably a very good, nice kid. Regardless, he simply doesnt/hasn't had "it". He has had every excuse & opportunity...he hasn't performed on the field. No ill will toward the young man; Card should start what's left of the season. So says Coach 1Sahorn.
     
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  16. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    Your post is reasonable, rationale and has great merit. I agree with it.

    However, I am now convinced Sark is very similar to Jerry Jones. Hard headed. Sark is going to ignore others around him and prove to you his "guy" is the right choice.

    I could be wrong, but Sark starts QE and sticks with him until too late on the road vs. KU.
     
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  17. Your Wrong

    Your Wrong 500+ Posts

    Absolutely players grow. Last year Card put doubt into everyone’s minds at ArKansas. The Iowa State game simply added to that. Then KU looked like he might bury himself. But against WVU, he showed some life - hit Worthy deep then later had excellent movement in the pocket running for positive yards. That was a glimpse into his upside. Then great composure versus Bama. And each week he had a few more plays. He protects the ball. And damned if he doesn’t look considerably faster this year.

    As I watch the contrast in Ewers and Card, one thing I’m confident in is that a college offense needs a QB that can and will make plays with their legs. In my opinion Ewers biggest upside is at the NFL level because that is less critical.

    Id love Card to kick butt here because he’s now the underdog story, largely given up for dead. He’s started a whole 5 games. Not unlike Ewers his best should be ahead of him. Usually backup QBs have little pressure, but that’s not really the case for Card.
    You are correct in that hard decisions must be made. I just think Sark has already made this one.
     
  18. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    Spot on! Manning should be able to beat out Ewers (especially if Ewers continues to sputter and flop as he did vs TCU), but benching Ewers would indicate that the coaches want results and not what we saw in the TCU game which was pitiful at best and embarrassing to the alums who donate a nice chunk of money to the program annually. Lot of upside to letting Ewers ride the pine for awhile until he gets his mind right.
     
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  19. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 5,000+ Posts

    I've often wondered what would have happened had Card remained the starter after the Arkansas debacle.
    I truly believe he would have won the next two games leading up to OU.
    Would he have taken the next step in growth and confidence?
    Sark didn't seem to care about developing his young starter then.
    He went with experience because he wanted to win.
    So what has changed.
    If Ewers is truly a humble and competitive player, then a quarter or two on the bench should serve as a learning experience.
    If he can't take it then hit the portal and Card and Maalik can finish the season.
    Arch arrives in January.
    I have seen Ewers make some Mahomes worthy throws.
    But something is going on with his accuracy, vision and decision making.
    I'm sure Ewers starts this Saturday.
    Let's hope Sark has finally shortened the leash.
     
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  20. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    I have not been a Card fan due to his holding the ball too long. However, he’s more accurate and less prone to throw picks than Ewers at this point. We just don’t have a good enough QB to be top 15 right now. If we had that, we would be. This team is comparable to the 2000-2003 Longhorns. Young and very talented. QB play has been our demise in 21’ and 22’. Defense was a big one last year but not anymore. We are better off using Card this year and let Arch Manning compete with whoever has the balls to stay in 23’!
     
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  21. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    :ousucksnana:
    Your can’t afford it. (Only Emirates’ Airbus A380 pilots can afford, “Dukesteer’s Enlightening & Mostly Irrelevant Longhorn Takes.”)

    :hammertime:
     
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  22. Your Wrong

    Your Wrong 500+ Posts

    Lots of points on which I agree with you kids.

    There have no doubt been discussions regarding the QBs. There is money tied up in them. It’s a dynamic I’d assume none here know all those details. The $ have to impact things. But to what extent.

    I don’t think Card is Sarks guy. Or he wouldn’t have been benched after Arkansas. New system. Freshman. Two games. On the road to a team that hates you. Defense gives up 40. Linemen blocking each other. Then naming Ewers starter but more so limiting the playbook but just giving the impression that Card isn’t suited for his offense.

    So put yourself in Cards spot knowing those facts. And obviously he knows way more than any of us. I bet the NFL is a goal. There are many hindrances here for him in achieving that goal, namely playing time. Yet he will have had two years of training and knowledge from a good source. I can see the mindset of I’m deserving of a shot, but I won’t get it. So that leaves little choice for 2023 for him.
     
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  23. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    I don’t get to see them practice but I have to wonder what are Cards practice habits or results that keep him from playing after our last qb performances.
    Frustrating to watch a game like the NC - Wake game and qbs on both sides hitting deep balls - in stride multiple times.
     
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  24. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    QE is a young kid who is in over his head and is drowning and Sark is telling him learn how to swim and in the mean time we lose games! GAMES THAT ARE WINNABLE.

    AND THIS PISSES ME OFF ROYALLY

    HELL, THE DEFENSE SCORED MORE POINTS THAN THE OFFENSE

    my respecto-meter has plummeted with Sark.
    heck I am on the verge of calling for a new head coach which everyone hates including myself.
    is Sark going to cost us 3-4 games every year like he has done this year? (I really believe he has done that).
    Kansas is going to clean our clock if Ewers starts and plays most of the game.
    At one point I said that Ewers had the "it", but right now it's more like "s**t". He needs time to get his head out of his a** and not playing time which is costing us winnable games.
    Most of you know I have been labeled a sunshine pumper and that I am cause I look at our athletes. But the head coach is weighing us down like a ball and chain.
     
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  25. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Go Poms!
     
  26. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    Card has shown us this season, ALREADY, that he can play and play well!
    a lot better than Ewers.
    And he did it with a bum leg.
     
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  27. Baseballgawd

    Baseballgawd 25+ Posts

    Payrates will soon change, when regional pilot check airmen can make 500k, that will surely move up the foodchain.
     
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  28. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    IMO Sark should go for the best dual QB out there and if his passing is a little weak well he can make him better, after all he is the QB whisperer, right?
    In the meantime we can be getting first downs with his legs! Right?
    Boy I would love a VY or Caleb Williams right about now, or actually at the beginning of this season. But as long as Sark is coach we have to be satisfied with a QB that throws the ball out of bounds when things get a little dicy.
     
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  29. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    So Sark is thinking, "playing my QB that completes 45 percent of his passes and doesn't run very well is better than playing my back up QB who is completing 65 percent of his passes and runs much better".

    Hmmmmmmmm. And we pay him millions.

    Perhaps Sark is thinking "if i play Card now I will look bad if he wins us games cause I chose the other guy over him". My reputation will take a hit.
    Well guess what!
    Your reputation has already taken a massive hit!

    Alright, I am done. Got it all off my chest.
    Do I feel better? somewhat. Time to get on with real life.
     
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  30. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    Im not gonna comment on which qb should start because IMO the #1 problem in the last two losses is Sark stubbornly calling plays his qb cannot make, at least not on that day.
     
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