Brittany Griner

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by justabbfan, Mar 6, 2022.

  1. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    I think the issue was her salary. She can/could have played. She wanted more money.
     
  2. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    She only has herself to blame then.
     
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  3. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    People who spent their entire adult lives as “victims” will never blame themselves.
     
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  4. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Good thing I don't have to care anything about what happens to her. Yawn.
     
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  5. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Yes. It was her choice. I certainly don't begrudge her choice. Many Americans go abroad for a better opportunity. It goes back to her choice to break their laws.
     
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  6. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    I thought this was just one of the off-season foreign leagues like many of the players were doing for the extra money...claiming that WNBA did not pay enough to only play the WNBA season.
     
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  7. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    US players are free to go abroad to make more $$. Just be sure and read those State Dept warnings about the particular country(ies) you're going to be moving to.
     
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  8. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    The cheap ticket prices are great with women’s sports! In fact some soccer games were free. Want to see the best? Then the women’s volleyball team is right there. Now the Regional finals are a bit ^$.
     
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  9. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

    Quite honestly, you would have to pay me to go to a soccer match, but I do love watching the women's VB team.
     
  10. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    I do want to watch them play sometime. I'm quite aware of how good they are they are very impressive.

    Hey, I went to Trinity from 1976-80. They had a great women's tennis team back then. We liked to watch them play. Maybe a little horndog about it but they were crushing that ball back and forth. I was into tennis as I played in high school and loved the pro tour. I admired Chrissie and Evonne Goolagong.

    So don't get me wrong about women's sports. I just think there's a huge gap between men and women's basketball and it's noticeable to me.

    But Hook 'Em lady horns (am I not supposed to say that?)!
     
  11. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    If you say "Lady Horns" on the WBB board, you will get a lot of huffing and puffing, righteous indignation, and general blowback from the regulars there. But here you're probably safe.
     
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  12. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    I only said it so we know which team I'm referring to.

    I could have said "They" but you would have had to think it thru. Maybe it was obvious.
     
  13. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Guess I feel differently because I had two daughters play, one through HS and one in college.
    Oh and I loved Ms Goolagong.
     
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  14. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Maybe. I still don't blindly trust Russia this much. Quite likely there was an agreed-upon understanding regarding foreign stars and they deliberately waited to renege until it would be expedient to them to get leverage and use the next decade of her life as a pawn. The punishment is drastically overfit for the crime and if the incident happened exactly the same to someone with different politics, it's pretty clear the last 5 pages would largely read very differently.
     
  15. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I think drug laws in Russia are stricter than in the US. But at the same time it is in their nature to use things like this for political gain. Russia is an authoritarian dictatorship. The only thing a person should trust them to be is brutal and merciless. Any American citizen going over their to make money has to take that into consideration regardless of their political beliefs. If you step outside the lines you will be hit hard. I think the people in hornfans are simply recognizing that.
     
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  16. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    For one, this is primarily a board to discuss politics and not foreign policy. Second, Griner made comments in the past about imagined injustice in America and then had to suffer real injustice in another country. The irony is too great for any normal human being to ignore . Third, when their side calls you racist and fascist at every opportunity, it’s hard to garner sympathy for her situation. Actions do have consequences - which (like children) is the worst thing that a liberal wants to hear.
     
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  17. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I think two things can be true at once. I think it's clear that the Russian government is screwing with her and exploiting her for political and diplomatic reasons. However, I also think it's true that she displayed terrible judgment. When you visit another country, you follow their laws, and if you knowingly visit an authoritarian country, you have to be especially careful. Personally, I wouldn't go to a country like Russia or North Korea, but if I did, I'd be straight as a grizzly's dick. Not only would I not break the law, I wouldn't do anything that was anywhere near breaking the law.
     
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  18. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

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    Chop 10,000+ Posts

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  20. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

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  21. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Unfortunately, the Marine, Paul Whelan, was not included in the exchange deal for the international arms dealer Victor Bout.
     
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  22. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Glad she’s getting out of that pit. She’s fortunate she didn’t have to spend a few years in that gulag labor camp.
     
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  23. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    I don't want to hear about white privilege ever again. Paul Whelan has been rotting for 4 years, and the US prioritized a Black lesbian basketball player in exchange for a notorious arms dealer. Good for Brittany but there is nothing to celebrate.
     
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  24. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Okay, I was confused. A marine was released earlier. Apparently Whelan is another marine too.


    Griner's return for Bout marks the Biden administration's second prisoner swap with Russia. In April, the U.S. traded Konstantin Yaroshenko, a Russian smuggler convicted of conspiring to import cocaine, for Trevor Reed. The former U.S. Marine had been imprisoned in Russia for nearly three years.
     
  25. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    From a layman's perspective, it seems to me that Victor Bout was a really big prize, maybe the #1 arms dealer in the world. I would think we'd be able to get a lot more than a women's basketball player in exchange for Bout. I'd think quite a few ex-Marines and alleged spies (whomever the Russians might be holding) should have been thrown into the exchange.

    But... when did I turn into a f@ckin' diplomat? I ain't exactly the State Department type...

     
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  26. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

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  27. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    The question - if Griner had just been a regular person rather than a woke lesbian, would this deal have been made?
     
  28. Bobcat

    Bobcat 500+ Posts

    WELCOME HOME Brittney. Ignore the hate, keep doing the great things you do for others, and enjoy your life….
     
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  29. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Don’t break laws when visiting foreign countries - Signed, taxpayer.
     
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  30. Bobcat

    Bobcat 500+ Posts

    That didn’t take long….just as I expected. So predictable…. “You just can’t keep the pigs away from the trough”. Agnes Moorehead…. Have a great day!!!
     
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