Christian Persecution

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  1. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    I really can't stand this latest development. In my personal life, and in my reading of the world around me, Christians and Hindus have always had very good relations--despite being about as different as two religions can be.

    On a geopolitical level, the USA and India have been trying to come together in some form of alliance, and this can't be good for that.
     
  2. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Cynical Chop says, don't worry. It won't be long before the Muslims over there do something really bad. Then the Hindu rage and persecution will be directed at someone other than the Christians again.

    That's kind of bad, but I think it's true.
     
  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    You mean like your run-of-the-mill Muslim in the Middle East?
     
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  4. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Might it be the one who was trying to bang the Beatles' girlfriends?
     
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  5. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    Agree Hindus don't generally seem violent, but we found some that are.
     
  6. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    They are very when they rule society. They don't brook any competition over their cultural hegemony. We in the West have actually been stupid not to do the same with Christianity. They are the norm in the world. We are the exception.
     
  7. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    So we Christians should be more violent? I've developed a sore elbow. I'm not sure that my head-severing skills would be very good.
     
  8. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    No. But there are ways of protecting culture from atheism, Marxism, and letting other religions change our culture through grievance shopping. Not sure about how to do it, but something is needed.
     
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  9. Facing Addiction

    Facing Addiction 1,000+ Posts

    At what point do we acknowledge how often the Christian Right has been right? | Not the Bee

    A lot more than this, and:

    we simply cannot be surprised that "too many young people place too little value on human life." If we really did want to rise up and say no more, it should be with more than platitudes. It should be with an awareness that:

    • When you teach kids every day in biology class that human life is nothing but a cosmic accident with no purpose
    • When you teach kids every day that murdering an infant in the womb for convenience is a legitimate moral choice
    • When you teach kids every day that killing off the elderly is socially justifiable
    • When you teach kids every day that exterminating the sick and the dying is ethical
    • When you teach kids every day that suicide is courageous so long as it is assisted by a physician
    …you simply cannot be surprised when those kids grow up believing that human life has no real value. That's precisely what you've taught them.
     
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  10. Facing Addiction

    Facing Addiction 1,000+ Posts

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  11. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    Enjoy that lawsuit, Smithsonian! From the SI themselves:

    "Courts have also held that the Smithsonian enjoys the immunity of the United States from lawsuits, unless such suits are authorized by Congress under specific statutes, such as the Federal Torts Claim Act (torts), the U.S. Copyright Act (copyright infringement), the Tucker Act (contracts), and Title VII the Civil Rights Act (discrimination)."

    Legal History | Smithsonian Institution
     
  12. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Woke corporations and government institutions do things that are blatantly illegal all the time. It's just a matter of if someone wants to go to the trouble of suing.
     
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  13. Facing Addiction

    Facing Addiction 1,000+ Posts

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    Facing Addiction 1,000+ Posts

  15. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    Someone does want to go through the trouble.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/10/national-archives-sued-for-abortion-opponent-clothing-flap.html

    "Something tells me Jesus would *not* spend millions of dollars on Super Bowl ads to make fascism look benign," Ocasio-Cortez wrote.

    Didn't realize she complained until this article. I might actually agree with her first part - "Jesus would *not* spend millions of dollars on Super Bowl ads". Article says that's $20 million. I could see him doing something more direct with the $20M like paying off crushing medical debt for 40 people. Certainly smaller scale than the 113 million people that watched the Super Bowl but more impactful than 60 seconds of TV for that small group. Why? For example, he fed the crowd hearing him preach. He didn't make food appear for everyone in the nation.


    However, I don't follow her next part "make fascism look benign" Huh? Pictures of people arguing makes fascism look benign?
     
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  16. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

  17. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    A Christian who was persecuted severely--to the point of death and martyrdom:

    St Valentine

    We celebrate him today worldwide.


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    Reportedly, one of the Roman judges who held him was converted (along with many other people) after Valentine talked with him about Jesus, then did a miracle by healing the judge's daughter from blindness. Valentine then told the judge to go home and destroy all of the idols in his house. The judge did so, came back and freed every Christian in the prison. Valentine also reportedly clandestinely married Roman soldiers and Christian wives.


    Saint Valentine supposedly wore a purple amethyst ring, customarily worn on the hands of Christian bishops with an image of Cupid engraved in it, a recognizable symbol associated with love that was legal under the Roman Empire; Roman soldiers would recognize the ring and ask him to perform marriage for them. Probably due to the association with Saint Valentine, amethyst has become the birthstone of February, which is thought to attract love.
    Valentine's Day - Wikipedia
    Saint Valentine - Wikipedia
     
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  18. Facing Addiction

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  19. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

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  21. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    maybe we aren't lost after all.
     
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  22. Facing Addiction

    Facing Addiction 1,000+ Posts

    A leaked FBI memo targets "radical" Catholics in the US. The Republican-led House wants answers. | Not the Bee

    What characterizes a "radicalized" Catholic, according the FBI?

    Some traits include preferring listening to the Mass in Latin, the view that there's only one road to heaven, abortion is sinful, and LGBTQ lifestyles are sinful.

    According to the memo, radical beliefs like these lead to racism, white supremacy, and violent extremists, so the memo directed federal surveillance of these sorts of Catholics.
     
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  23. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

    LOL! oh boy
    yeah those atheists are just destroying culture with their sinister disbelief
    Evangelicals would do it in a second if they thought they could get way with it
    Gentle Jesus meek and mild? f**k you, it's Inquisition 2.0 time baby
     
  24. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I've been an evangelical for 46 years, and I've literally never heard one even suggest such a thing even in private. Most of them aren't interested in a new round of the Crusades.
     
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  25. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Yes. The evidence is all around.

    If we thought we could get away with it. We could have a generation ago and 2, 3, and 4. Doesn't look like that was the case. America has been tolerant on multiple levels since its founding and that will always be the case.
     
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  26. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    Maybe the ones you hang out with? All those children's songs aimed at being some type of Christian soldier or army member aren't getting less popular.
     
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  27. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    It's called a metaphor. Just because you sing "I'm in the Lord's Army" as a kid (as I did) doesn't mean you actually think you should take up arms and kill people. Keep in mind that Christians generally believe in free will. Putting a gun as somebody's head and ordering him to say "Jesus is Lord" is not a victory for a Christ or for Christianity. A Christian believes a changed heart is a victory.
     
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  28. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    And Christians should pray for their enemies. Direct quote from the big man himself.
     
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  29. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Those Christian notions are why general American viewpoints on violence say that assault is evil and self defense is okay. Violence is for defense only. We call violence outside of defense felony.
     
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  30. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    It's symbolic (guarding yourself from evil) to you and to 99.9% of rational, free-thinking Christians. But the metaphor doesn't just have to be the Ephesians 6 variety. Are there Christian nationalists with stockpiles of weapons in Idaho? Yes. Are they mainstream? No.
     

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