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  1. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    It seems that Zane is back in a closer or late inning setup man role. Maybe that's where he should be at?
     
  2. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Sthele had a good outing in long relief in Game 3 at KU.
     
  3. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    High numbers on radar gun alone do not a good pitcher make.

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  4. Your Wrong

    Your Wrong 500+ Posts

    If you are that worried, I’d suggest looking around the country at #3 and 4 starters.

    There are very few that are consistently good.
     
  5. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Yep. The problems we have on our pitching staff...most other teams have the same problems, but worse. For many teams, a lot worse...
     
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  6. Chop

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  7. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    https://www.ncaa.com/stats/baseball/d1/current/individual/205

    This is one that won't be discussed much on tv, but it could be our trump card.

    There are only 4 teams who have 2 (or more) starting pitchers ranked in the Top 50 pitchers in the nation:

    1. Wake Forest
    2. Texas (Gordon #18, LBJ #38)
    3. UCSB
    4. Army (competition bad/may not even make the tournament)

    The top-ranked teams better hope we get our own Regional. They would not want to wake up, read the paper and find out that UT will be the #2 seed in their Regional.
     
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  8. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    We finish the regular season with a Team ERA of 4.06.
    Our opponents have a Team ERA of 7.13


    :ut::ut::ut:
     
  9. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Yeah, but compare ERA’s of the 9th inning or 8th + 9th innings. Other teams were laying low until the 8th.
     
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  10. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    So with Shaw and Tole injured, and (according to some internet sources) Burke quitting/transferring, we've lost our 3 top relievers and our bullpen has been gutted. (I'm considering Witt as a starter, which is what he's been since he came back)

    That leaves:

    Reliever.....WHIP
    Lummus.......1.17
    Hurley..........1.38
    Sthele..........1.54
    Zane M........1.57
    Minchey.......1.58
    Ace W..........1.62
    DuPlantier....1.64
    Stuart..........1.67
    Grubbs........1.85
    Howard........1.89
    Walbridge.....2.04

    In the college game, you like to see a Reliever's WHIP under 1.50. If you take that up to 1.60, then we've still got 5 guys who can play, plus Ace W--arguably our most reliable reliever. That's 6 relievers we can (more-or-less) rely on to not give up many crooked-number innings. If we get out to big leads over U La or Maine, that's where Stuart will need to come in and eat up 4+ innings without suffering too much damage.

    Also, to any who like to give Lummus any crap, the numbers don't lie. Per the stats sheet, Lummus is now the best reliever in our pen.

    Of these pitchers, the ones that can go 3, 4, 5 + innings are Zane and Hurley, and maybe Sthele (but we've gotten into trouble using Travis more than 2 innings before; he may have to go 4-5 innings out of necessity). In fact, Zane (former starter) could go 6-7+ innings, if needed. The starters Gordon and LBJ will need to each go 7 innings.
     
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2023
  11. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Young guns who wanted to see some action in the playoffs--you may get your chance. Some of the young (and other) guys pretty far down the depth chart will see action if we stay in beyond a few games.

    Minchey will see action regardless--game 1, 2, or 3. Grubbs is good for 1-2 inning spurts, during which he can get a lot of ground outs, but may also get hit. Howard--same thing, but without all the ground outs. DuPlantier is going to have to show up and throw 1-2 innings here and there. We know what DuP can do when he's on. Even Walbridge may throw an inning or two in these playoffs--I think our fan base has a distorted view of this hurler based on a horrendous first time or two on the mound earlier this year. His more recent outings have been decent enough.
     
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2023
  12. Chop

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  13. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    I figure Lummus and Ace may fill Shaw's role as the stopper, coming in when things are going South, getting us out of trouble, and throwing 1 more inning. We could see either, or both, in 2 or 3 games in Miami.

    Or, 1 of the above may be our closer. :idk:

    We may need to save Zane for a 4th game start or long relief, since Zane has gone 6-7 innings before.
     
  14. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Go to the pharmacy and get some heartburn medicine. Over the course of the Miami Regional, we're going to be trotting out some hurlers to the mound in relief who may give you heartburn.

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  15. STHAustin

    STHAustin 250+ Posts

    To further complicate matters, rain delays could cut short starts by Gordon and Johnson. If there are rain delays, gotta hope they come before the game starts and not after they've pitched 4 innings. It's already raining at the ballpark.
     
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  16. Chop

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    Some possibilities:

    Tomorrow:

    Starter: LBJ
    Stopper: Ace W or Lummus
    2nd Reliever to enter the game: Ace W or Lummus
    Closer: Morehouse or Sthele or Minchey


    Game 3:

    Starter: Witt
    Long Reliever: Hurley or Sthele
    2nd Reliever to enter game: Hurley or Sthele
    Closer: Ace W or Lummus or Morehouse or Minchey or DuPlantier or Stuart

    Game 4:
    Johnny All-Staff
    1-3 innings from each of:
    Gordon
    Morehouse
    Ace W
    Lummus
    Minchey
    Sthele
    DuPlantier
    Grubbs
    Stuart

    For any game, if we're absolutely getting destroyed (or if we're up by 6+ runs)--long reliever to eat up innings: Stuart

    I don't know what the deal is with Stuart. He can throw really fast, and he's got pretty good stuff, but he seems to lose his control, and also get hit, and it all seems to happen in one or two big innings.
     
  17. Your Wrong

    Your Wrong 500+ Posts

    It’s an interesting read on some of these play-by-play innings from today. Granted many are the underdogs, but the walks and hit by pitches would give you dudes heart attacks.

    For instance Auburn scored the tying run in the 8th on HBP, walk, HBP, and walk.

    Iowa walked two dudes in the 9th to make it interesting.

    Rider had some walks/HBP to help Coastal get some runs late and help get it to extras.

    Troy had 3 walks/HBP in the 8th and 2 more in the 9th to help BC stay in the game.
     
  18. Chop

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    Now that would drive me up the wall if I was the coach. I'd have 3-4 pitchers warming up in the pen.
     
  19. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Clearly, MLB and Longhorn great pitcher Greg Swindell is worthy of much respect. And you hear him frequently say on LHN broadcasts (paraphrased): 'What's the primary job of a relief pitcher? To come out of the bullpen throwing strikes.'
     
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  20. Your Wrong

    Your Wrong 500+ Posts

    It’s just where we are. CSF has walked 7 in 2+ innings.
     
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  21. longhornlegend

    longhornlegend 1,000+ Posts

    He is 100% right. I would think that by this time of year, our pitchers would all be able to accomplish this. A ball in play is much better than a walk. We have a pretty descent fielding team so just give them a chance to make the play.
     
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  22. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Well, the bullpen hasn't mattered yet with our 2 monster starters. It's about to matter though. While Witt is really good, his pitch count will be lower than the other starters for obvious reasons.

    Trusted enough by the Coaches: Ace "Boogey" Whitehead, Lummus, Zane Morehouse, Hurley, Sthele, Minchey, DuPlantier.

    And some guys like Stuart, Grubbs, Howard, and Wallbridge could even see action if this turns into a 4 game Regional for us.

    We UT fans like to gripe a lot about our bullpen, but aside from Wake Forest, Tennessee, and maybe a few others, it's pretty solid compared to the other teams out there. Even without Burke, Tole, and Shaw, it's at least an average bullpen among the Top 16 teams. Other fan bases sound just like us: 'What's with our bullpen, we need a new pitching coach, why can't we recruit good relievers, blah, blah, blah..." It ain't just us. It's endemic throughout the entire college game.

    Fortunately, we have 2 superior starters (3 if Witt is back 80-90% +) that set us apart from all but 1 team on the mound when it comes to starting pitchers.
     
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2023
  23. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Gordon will pitch in game 3 if we are winning after 6 innings. No reason to hold Gordon for Game 4 if Horns can win it in game 3 with Gordon going 2-3 innings.
     
  24. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    After the Regionals:

    Starting Pitcher.....ERA.........WHIP

    Gordon....................2.45...........1.09
    LBJ............................2.62...........1.21

    Now that's a 1-2 punch!

    :bevo::bevo::bevo:
     
  25. Chop

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  26. Chop

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    The challenge next year is going to be getting everybody enough innings to pitch.

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  27. Chop

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