Illegal Aliens should get part of the tax rebate.

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by BoogityBoy, Jan 30, 2008.

  1. BoogityBoy

    BoogityBoy 250+ Posts

  2. shaq

    shaq 100+ Posts

    It's amazing we can find illegals to give them a hand out, but yet can't find them when their resident status is involved....go figure.

    Maybe the FED can set up rebate cash machines in the Emergency Rooms.
     
  3. Roger

    Roger 1,000+ Posts

    if they paid taxes then give them a rebate
     
  4. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

    Maybe the people who have their SSN stolen by the over staying visitors should get the double the rebate instead?
     
  5. TahoeHorn

    TahoeHorn 1,000+ Posts

    We could use it to buy them a plane ticket to Acapulco.
     
  6. mishatx

    mishatx 1,000+ Posts

    "non resident alien" does not mean "illegal immigrant". You can be here perfectly legally and with the government's knowledge and be a "non resident alien"
     
  7. zzzz

    zzzz 2,500+ Posts

    You can also be here illegally:

     
  8. scottsins

    scottsins 1,000+ Posts

    the fact that that article equates illegal immigrants with non-resident aliens is a huge problem. the hugest of problems is that people actually skim that over and believe it's stupid ****, and then get all angry about something that isnt even happening.
     
  9. ousuxndallas

    ousuxndallas 500+ Posts

    How many of you are stupid enough to believe illegal aliens are paying income taxes??

    ??

    ??

    95% of them are being paid off the books with cash. Hell, most of them don't even have checking accounts for that very reason. Ever wonder why twice a month there's 30 people standing in line at HEB to cash their paychecks?
     
  10. Wesser

    Wesser 1,000+ Posts

    I paid taxes - a lot - and I am a citizen, where's my ******* rebate? Seriously, the upper middle class who bears a massive tax burden in this country doesnt get **** while some argue for illegals to get 'rebates'. WTF.

    Moreover, on XM this morning I listened to the treasurer for the AFL-CIO make the case that the stimulus is a real opportunity to change the economy of the nation. He argued for extending unemployment benefits, tripling the food stamp program and using federal funds to bail out states like California that are cutting welfare programs because of their strange desire to actually bring their budget into balance. In other words, let's seize upon this time to bring forth the greatest expansion of welfare programs since the 1960s. Scared the **** out of me and made me send John McCain a $100. T
     
  11. hooklahoma

    hooklahoma 1,000+ Posts

    This is no more offensive to me than a US citizen who doesnt pay taxes getting a rebate. It sucks.
     
  12. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    hook
    I understand it doesn't seem to make sense to give rebates to people who didn't pay income tax in the first place and probably received a refund on tax they didn't pay

    Wouldn't it bother you more to have someone here illegally who frauded the gov't getting in here and then frauded our gov't by filing with the IRS either using a fake SSN, a stolen SSN or a ITINs.
    According to Mark Everson, commissioner of the IRS for 2003 there were 7.3 million mismatched W-2s.
    75% of mismatched W-2's were for income of less than 10,000. there apparently was no way to track how many of those mismatched w-2s filed received refunds or EITC.
    This does not address people who faked Docs to get ITINs so those returns wouldn't have triggered any flags

    The IRS simply doesn't have any way or legal authority to prevent this not to mention manpower.

    The problems are so enormous it boggles the mind that there are so many people savvy enough and evil enough to game US on so many levels,
    If these are just hard working decent people who only want a better life how do you explain why they are working so hard to steal from us?
     
  13. Ankf00

    Ankf00 250+ Posts

    I just got a phatty raise today. Yay, me. [​IMG]

    Some of y'all need hobbies.
     
  14. hornfanuk

    hornfanuk 100+ Posts

    I am a non resident alien in the US. I have a 3 year work visa. I have a Social Security Number. I pay taxes.
    Please can people stop confusing me with illegal immigrants!
     
  15. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Hornfan
    Most people do NOT confuse you with an illegal alien.
    People who are trying to deflect the issue are trying to confuse the two terms.
    We appreciate and respect anyone who works and contributes within our system.
    PLUS you are a Horn! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  16. Turd of Doom

    Turd of Doom 250+ Posts


     
  17. Brisketexan

    Brisketexan 1,000+ Posts


     
  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Brisket
    good for that hospital, where ever it is, that seems to go against the norm in getting illegals to pay for their ER care.

    According to the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, as of 2005 84 California hospitals have closed due largely to uncollected revenue from illegal aliens.( I couldn't find Texas or florida stats , does anyone think it only happens in Calif?) The J.A.P.S. estimates that illegal aliens represent at least 25% of America's uninsured.

    Would you call the J.A. P.S. Boogeymen?

    No one is saying there are not legals who scam the system too so to use that as justification for illegals to do it is silly.
     
  19. scottsins

    scottsins 1,000+ Posts


     
  20. Wesser

    Wesser 1,000+ Posts


     
  21. general35

    general35 5,000+ Posts

    let's just get on with it and sell everything off to the highest bidder.
     
  22. Mr.Wizard

    Mr.Wizard 1,000+ Posts

    Immigration is not as big of a deal as you think.

    Give them the rebate, jesus.
     
  23. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Mr
    You posted, :Immigration is not as big of a deal as you think.

    You are absolutely 100% Incorrect. Immigrants are a big
    deal., a welcome respected addition a really big deal. We welcome any and all immigrants.

    This issue hiowever is about ILLEGAL aliens.
     
  24. Mr.Wizard

    Mr.Wizard 1,000+ Posts

    We should have enforced the laws we already had, we did not, so we must deal with it in a realistic manner.

    Just evicting a major part of our infrastructure is not the answer.

    Nor is the witch hunt.
     
  25. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I do not consider it a witch hunt to deny any sort of benefit to people who are breaking laws and know they are breaking laws.

    This issue is about illegals who fake or steal docs to get rebates.
    I am not sure why you think they deserve a rebate from this stimulus package. I don't
     
  26. BoogityBoy

    BoogityBoy 250+ Posts

    This rebate is just another redistribution of wealth scheme and should only go to those who verifiably paid into the system last year. How hard could that be?
     
  27. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    boogity
    you posted "should only go to those who verifiably paid into the system last year. How hard could that be? "
    that is not true.
    People who didn't pay a dime of income tax in and even got up to $4700 as part of. EITC_ will get another rebate under this stimulus plan.
    while people who did pay in but make more than whatever figure is decided on will get nothing
    the IRS has no way to verify who is legal and who is not
     

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