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Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Phoenix, Jul 22, 2008.

  1. Phoenix

    Phoenix < 25 Posts

  2. Hpslugga

    Hpslugga 2,500+ Posts

    When was it our country to begin with?
     
  3. utexas_61

    utexas_61 500+ Posts

    Whose country is it?
     
  4. bozo_casanova

    bozo_casanova 2,500+ Posts


     
  5. general35

    general35 5,000+ Posts

    When was it our country to begin with?
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    when we took it from the indians.
     
  6. IRC

    IRC 1,000+ Posts

    Great quote.

    Too bad he didn't actually believe it.





    (...You do remember the Civil War, right? When the South decided that they had "the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suit[ed] them better.")
     
  7. Hpslugga

    Hpslugga 2,500+ Posts


     
  8. general35

    general35 5,000+ Posts

    Our government did that. We are not the government and the government is not an extension of us.
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    I knew all that We the People stuff was a bunch of crap.
     
  9. Hpslugga

    Hpslugga 2,500+ Posts

    I recommend you read "Notes of the Secret Debates of the Federal Convention of 1787" by Robert Yates and "A Preface to Democratic Theory" by Robert Dahl. I also recommend that you take a political theory or political science course at any college that teaches it. Each source will teach you that the United States is not a democracy and is not intended to be a democracy.
     
  10. Anastasis

    Anastasis 1,000+ Posts


     
  11. Hpslugga

    Hpslugga 2,500+ Posts


     
  12. Anastasis

    Anastasis 1,000+ Posts

    We're talking the ideals that this country was founded on vs the current reality, fine.
     
  13. Hpslugga

    Hpslugga 2,500+ Posts

    I am referring to the ideals that this country was founded on as well.
     
  14. Namewithheld

    Namewithheld 2,500+ Posts


     
  15. Hpslugga

    Hpslugga 2,500+ Posts

    It's a form of representative republic that is referred to in technical literature as a polyarchy, which is a representative democracy in which the major decision making is made by the government and the opulent who contribute to and support their campaigns, which is exactly what the founders wanted.

     
  16. general35

    general35 5,000+ Posts

    I recommend you read "Notes of the Secret Debates of the Federal Convention of 1787" by Robert Yates and "A Preface to Democratic Theory" by Robert Dahl. I also recommend that you take a political theory or political science course at any college that teaches it. Each source will teach you that the United States is not a democracy and is not intended to be a democracy.
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    I know we are a republic dude, i was a double major in history and government...everyone of my comments has been tongue and cheek, get a sense of humor.
     
  17. general35

    general35 5,000+ Posts

    If by "the people" you mean "the wealthy."
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    What is wrong with that...I like to follow the ideology of H. L. Hunt, he believed as I do that the wealthy should have a larger voice and the people that pay the most in taxes should have a higher percentage of the vote...and why not, the wealthiest 5% pay about 1/2 of all individual income tax revenue...they basically pay for the government and assist with the employment of a majority of the population. fair is fair.
     
  18. accuratehorn

    accuratehorn 10,000+ Posts

    It's good to be the king, the prince, the baron, the aristocracy.
     
  19. Namewithheld

    Namewithheld 2,500+ Posts


     
  20. scally

    scally 100+ Posts

    We didn't see any democracy on the streets of Highland Park or on the streets of Willow Bend or on the streets of Oak Lawn or Turtle Creek. Ain't no democracy down there. No, we've never seem democracy! All we've seen is hypocrisy! We don't see any American Dream. We've experienced only the American Nightmare!
     
  21. Bevo Incognito

    Bevo Incognito 5,000+ Posts


     
  22. scally

    scally 100+ Posts

    I must emphasize at the outstart, that the Honorable June Jones is not a politician, so I'm not here this afternoon as a Republican, nor a Democrat, not as a Mustang nor an Warrior, not as a Couger nor an Oiler, not as a Catholic nor a Protestant, not as a Baptist nor a Methodist, not even as an American. For if I was an American the problem that confronts our people today would not exist. So I stand here as what I was when I was born: A HIGHLAND PARKER! Before there were any such things as Democrats or Republicans, we were black. Before there were any such things as Mustangs or Warriors, we were HIGHLAND PARKERS. Before there were any such things as Jews or Christians, we were Highland Park people. In fact long before there was ever any such place as America, we were Highland Park people... And after America has long passed from the scene there will still be HIGHLAND PARK PEOPLE. They send J Crew's to pacify us. They send the run and shoot into Mockingbird Lane to pacify us. Why you can't get J Crew in Highland Park without the Dallas' permission, you can'd get Banana Republic in Highland Park without the Dallas' permission. Everytime you break the seal on that Jamba Juice, that's a government seal you're breaking, Oh I say it time and time again, you been had, you've been hoodwinked, bamboozeled, led astray, run amuck !!!
     
  23. gobears92

    gobears92 Guest

    y'all need to listen to Ice T's song, New Jack Hustler.... [​IMG]
     
  24. Hpslugga

    Hpslugga 2,500+ Posts

    In reply to:


     
  25. bozo_casanova

    bozo_casanova 2,500+ Posts


     
  26. zosostein

    zosostein 100+ Posts


     
  27. Hpslugga

    Hpslugga 2,500+ Posts

    Their votes do count. It's just that they don't know who or what they're voting for.
     
  28. general35

    general35 5,000+ Posts

    f them, why should their vote count as much as someone who inherited a fortune and has never worked?
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    That's right I forgot, all rich people dont work, they just lay on their asses. If they have money they must have inherited it...blah blah blah....
     
  29. UT-69745551

    UT-69745551 250+ Posts


     
  30. zosostein

    zosostein 100+ Posts


     

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