Let's bail out AIG

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Hogs Smell Good, Sep 16, 2008.

  1. Hogs Smell Good

    Hogs Smell Good 25+ Posts

    Typical tax-and-spend (or worse- borrow and spend) Republican welfare state mentality. When will the Republicans learn that the government can't take care of everyone and that big government isn't the answer to everyone's problems?

    I guess they were for the free market economy before they were against it.
     
  2. Dr Fear

    Dr Fear 500+ Posts

    AIG bailout is news to me. I don't think they could pull it off even if they wanted to.
     
  3. washparkhorn

    washparkhorn 2,500+ Posts

    I am sure there is authority for it since the federal government does anything it wants to, but can anyone explain to me where the federal government gets the authority to bail out AIG?

    I think the lead guy pushing for fed involvement is the Gov. of New York and I think his political affiliation (D) is irrelevant. If the feds bail out AIG it will be because they think our economy will crumble if it falters - again the political affiliation is irrelevant.

    Partisan politics suck.
     
  4. general35

    general35 5,000+ Posts

    i hold both parties responsible for this mess....they have to loan the money to AIG, if it fails, then you can start wiping your *** with dollar bills.
     
  5. TexonLongIsland

    TexonLongIsland 2,500+ Posts


     
  6. sak

    sak 250+ Posts

    We cannot afford to let AIG fail as it is now. Too much risk. The issue is that we let it get to this point. Regulations are required in any interconnected system. Pure free market, like pure socialism, only works if everybody have good intentions.
     
  7. Genco

    Genco 100+ Posts

    Dumb question here. AIG is subject to regulation. Was their failure a matter not covered by the current regulation they are subject to?

    Edit: Nevermind, I found he answer.


     
  8. softlynow

    softlynow 1,000+ Posts


     
  9. TexonLongIsland

    TexonLongIsland 2,500+ Posts

    In reply to:


     
  10. CTGA_Horn

    CTGA_Horn 250+ Posts


     
  11. TexonLongIsland

    TexonLongIsland 2,500+ Posts


     
  12. Genco

    Genco 100+ Posts

    Thanks for the responses. I found an article that I linked to above that I found very informative.
     
  13. YoLaDu

    YoLaDu Guest

    Bear Stearns bailout = 29 billion
    AIG bailout = 85 billion
    Fannie Mae Freddie Mac bailout = 200 billion

    2008 Stimulus check totals = 152 billion

    OK, I know these bailout numbers are technically "loans", but the totals are really starting to stack up.

    Do I need to be a patriot and return my stimulus check?
     
  14. TexonLongIsland

    TexonLongIsland 2,500+ Posts

    the fed has given them time to wind down their assets in an orderly manner. AIG can't save themselves, but it will be orderly. AIG can never pay back the LIBOR + 8.5 in the next 2 years for the $85B
     
  15. bub

    bub 100+ Posts

    "Moral Hazard". When did it leave business ethics classes?
     
  16. djimaplon

    djimaplon 250+ Posts


     
  17. DeadHorse

    DeadHorse 1,000+ Posts

    I like how we can't afford health care for America but we can afford corporate bailouts and wars, which are far more expensive.

    Republicans like big government, too. Their corporate welfare encourages irresponsible behavior just like the social programs they accuse of doing the same thing.
     
  18. Summerof79

    Summerof79 2,500+ Posts

    Sad thing is had the Bush Administration been able to amke the decision over the weekend we probably could ahve saved about $40 billion in taxpayer monies. Or had Paulson been more oblique in his news conference as much as 10-15 billion.

    What's worse than a gutless wonder, is a gutless wonder who is so gutless they can't make a decision they need to until they are actually forced to make the decision.

    The same support action could ahve been taken this weekend, the stock price woudl not have cratered to the point it did and the protection woudl have been stronger for much less cost. Just ******* stupid.
     
  19. accuratehorn

    accuratehorn 10,000+ Posts

    Didn't you know? Giving money to poor people for health care or economic security is socialism, the worst example of a nanny state gone amok. Giving $300 billion to a few large companies-the very bedrock of sound free market capitalism, the epitome of good government in action.
     
  20. KC-97HORN

    KC-97HORN 500+ Posts

    Summer for once in your life can you please shut the hell up about Bush.

    Seriously- if he had jumped in on Saturday like you wanted, you would have been screaming that he stepped in on Saturday and didnt let AIG fail. And dont freaking say otherwise- that would insult both of our intelligences.

    its old, its tired, and its stupid.

    Both sides of the aisle are equally to blame here. Yet you blame one freaking person.

    For the love of god -stop it.
     

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