McCain - 'He's not an arab.'

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  1. LonghornCougar

    LonghornCougar 1,000+ Posts

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    I must say, this puts back a little hope in our country for me. I'll give McCain his props...although it's still pretty ******* sad that people at these rallies are saying this **** (and believe it).
     
  2. RabidLonghorn

    RabidLonghorn 1,000+ Posts

    JM is running a con, first he defends Obama and makes us think he might have a soul then 2 hours later he starts running the worst ad yet trying to tie Obama with the weather underground attacks, and Obama was 8 at the time, No one but a hard core Repub believes his ********. [​IMG]
     
  3. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Good for McCain. There is still a little bit of the "maverick" left in his somewhere. I'll wait with baited breath to see if Palin is able to take McCain's cue in dealing with the crowds.
     
  4. Roger35

    Roger35 2,500+ Posts


     
  5. LittleBunnyFooFoo

    LittleBunnyFooFoo 500+ Posts

    This is getting surreal.


     
  6. groverat

    groverat 2,500+ Posts

    It reminds of Hillary having to manage her crowds' collective rage towards the end of her run during the primaries.

    McCain is reaping what he sowed, exactly as was the case with Hillary. You don't run on a platform of pure negativity and character assassination and then turn all innocence-wounded when the rabble you were rousing actually starts acting like roused rabble.

    He shouldn't have stoked the fires in the first place.

    Also, he didn't say Obama was an Arab, he said he was a "decent man", which is an interesting rejoinder given the context.
     
  7. Captain Murphy

    Captain Murphy 250+ Posts

    "It reminds of Hillary having to manage her crowds' collective rage towards the end of her run during the primaries."

    I was thinking the same thing. It's Hillary all over again. Only worse. I'm just waiting for someone to break out the n word at one of his/her rallies.
     
  8. RomaVicta

    RomaVicta 5,000+ Posts

    I just saw the video on TV. McCain snatches the mic from the old woman who called Obama an Arab and shakes his head. He had a genuine look of revulsion on his face as he did. He shook his head about Obama being an Arab and said Obama was decent man, a family man that he respected.

    It looked like the old McCain woke up for a second. Good for him.

    The report said that many in the crowd booed McCain when he said Obama was a decent man.

    I'd like to see McCain recover his decency before this race is over. This looks like a good first step. If he takes command of his campaign and stops the bs right now, he'll at least regain some of the respect he's lost. Some of it will be from me.
     
  9. groverat

    groverat 2,500+ Posts

    Why pick Palin if you care about your dignity, pride, and sense of decency? Her entire purpose was to get these people out and motivated and rabid. The entire purpose of their huge Ayers ad campaign was to get these people out and motivated and rabid.

    I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't running to lead the free world and if he hadn't planned for exactly this to happen.
     
  10. mojo17

    mojo17 1,000+ Posts

    Gosh the man does the right thing and you still rag on him. Give him a break. And Ayres is a legit concern. If Mc Cain had dealings with someone of that ilk then the Dems would be all over it.
     
  11. Rip76

    Rip76 1,000+ Posts

    the only word is doomed.

    enjoy it people.
     
  12. RomaVicta

    RomaVicta 5,000+ Posts


     
  13. groverat

    groverat 2,500+ Posts

    Ayers isn't a legit concern, that's the whole point. McCain has been telling people that Obama is something to be scared of, and they believed him. But the truth is that Obama isn't something to be scared of, and now McCain's legacy is at stake

    If Ayers were a legit concern then McCain wouldn't be facing this problem, because he'd just be the defender of what's right.

    McCain is busted talking out of both sides of his mouth, running a huge campaign to label Obama as a friend of terrorists and
    as someone who isn't dangerous. It cannot be both.

    Either Ayers is a legit concern and Obama is something to be scared of or
    Ayers is not a legit concern and Obama is not something to be scared of. You cannot have both.

    The reality of it is this:
    - William Ayers is no one. He's not a threat to anything.

    Even if Obama and Ayers drank beer and watched football together every Sunday, it wouldn't mean anything. There is no rational concern there, because William Ayers is not a threat to anyone nor does he wield any kind of power. He's an old hippie radical from the '60s.

    McCain tried to make this nobody into a frightening somebody and it has bitten him on the ***.
     
  14. ntexascardfan

    ntexascardfan 500+ Posts

    The following is from the man who actually attempted to prosecute Ayres in the 70's.

    By Greg Mitchell

    Published: October 10, 2008 9:00 AM ET

    NEW YORK In a surprising a letter to the editor published in The New York Times today, the chief prosecutor of the Weather Underground in the 1970s expressed outrage over the linking of Barack Obama to Bill Ayers by the McCain campaign, adding, "Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen."

    William C. Ibershof also corrects a charge in the Times: "I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of 'prosecutorial misconduct.' It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director."

    Felt, of course (you may have already forgotten), was also known as a guy called "Deep Throat."

    The full letter follows. For constant coverage of the media and the campaign go to our new blog at:
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    As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.

    Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.

    Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.

    I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director.

    William C. Ibershof
    Mill Valley, Calif., Oct. 8, 2008
     
  15. RomaVicta

    RomaVicta 5,000+ Posts

    I hope Ibershof is a GOP. That way the rabid GOPs can't discredit him and the traditional GOPs have another voice saying, "What the hell is going on here?"

    Many GOPs have objected to the smear tactics being used. There's a big difference between a traditional GOP and the spewers of the rabid right.
     
  16. BMBMD

    BMBMD 100+ Posts

    I wonder if there was a "meeting of the minds" following the second debate. Obama was clearly the superior debater, and has forged an almost insurmountable lead. I think it highly likely that there was a phone call or other meeting in which Obama agreed to help rehabilitate McCain after the election if McCain would cut out the ******** personal attacks. McCain has become a laughingstock, and his legacy is now at stake. If, indeed, he helps to "civilize" the remaining four weeks of this election, and regains a little of his dignity, look to see him as an important advisor and supporter of the Obama regime.. McCain is not a bad guy at all, and is certainly a patriot. He is just a horrible candidate overwhelmed by anti-republican and anti'-bush sentiment of historic proportions.
     
  17. bozo_casanova

    bozo_casanova 2,500+ Posts

    Good for John McCain. I hope the 2000 McCain comes back for a little while to punch Tucker Bounds in his dumb ******* face.
     
  18. newdealer

    newdealer < 25 Posts

    What is sad is that in this case being an Arab is used in the same context as that used against the Jews in Nazi Germany. Its a blanket condemnation of an entire ethnic group. So I'm assuming fhat if former Sen. John Mitchell ran for POTUS, then he'd have to explain his allegiance to a lot of dumb Americans because he is an Arab-American.
     
  19. allweatherHorn

    allweatherHorn 1,000+ Posts


     
  20. Mr.Wizard

    Mr.Wizard 1,000+ Posts

    Aside from the unfortunate comments of the Obama face painters on this thread, some really good comments.

    I have always disliked Obama for his "policy" "ideas", not anything to do with his race, rumors, etc.

    Too bad the Obama face painters do not have the same class.
     
  21. RabidLonghorn

    RabidLonghorn 1,000+ Posts

    Class talk coming from a JM Repub
    pot, kettle, black.
     
  22. LonghornCougar

    LonghornCougar 1,000+ Posts

    Good point about the term "Arab" being used like "Jew" was. Kind of like how "liberal" is used these days. Yeah, I''m a liberal and I'm proud of it, you don't see liberals saying "conservative" like its some horrific thing. We disagree with your view of the world, but that doesn't make either of us less patriotic or less American.

    And what do you mean about Obama supporters not having the same class?


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  23. BA93

    BA93 1,000+ Posts

    A CNN reporter spoke to that woman off camera and gave an account of the talk. The older woman said that Obama was an Arab. Reporter said that he wasn't. Older woman replied that he was a Muslim. Reporter said that he was a Christian. Woman then replied that she didnt believe that.

    You can't argue with someone that close minded. The danger of political attacks is that some people really take them to heart. If Obama or McCain's campaigns ay something about the other side, you have to not fully believe the spin. Some people cant do that.
     
  24. 45th St.

    45th St. 250+ Posts


     
  25. groverat

    groverat 2,500+ Posts

    In reply to:


     
  26. LonghornCougar

    LonghornCougar 1,000+ Posts

    45th St......seriously? Sure maybe he twisted words (no one better than McCain for saying Obama accused American troops for bombing civilians), but what politican doesn't?

    What exactly did he say that was so vile and "low"?

    And please don't talk about delegates, number of votes, etc. Who had more of the popular vote? I guess it doesn't matter that the popular vote went to Gore.
     
  27. YoLaDu

    YoLaDu Guest

    Mr. McCain ought to stop allowing his audiences to get on mic.

    I saw another clip of a gentleman talking with a mic, and McCain had this concerned look on his face "oh god, what is this idiot going to say?"

    We aren't dealing with a particularly bright electorate out there. Was reading Time this morning. Only 13% of the people polled could answer all 5 of these questions correctly:

    1. Who is the current VP?
    2. Barack Obama is Senator of which State?
    3. Who is the current Speaker of the House?
    4. Who is the secretary of the Treasury?
    5. Who is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court?

    Ouch.
     
  28. North Beach Horn

    North Beach Horn 250+ Posts

    Too bad you have no class. Just because your candidate didn't make it out of the primary doesn't mean you need to smear then next guy. You are like an Aggy rooting against Texas when they play OU...
     
  29. WTFHORNFAN

    WTFHORNFAN 100+ Posts

    I think McCain is a decent man who is ambivalent about getting in the gutter to win this campaign. He likely is being convinced by advisors that the ends justify the means but in his moments of clarity of seeing what he and his campaign has become, he winces.
     
  30. COmountainhorn

    COmountainhorn 250+ Posts

    How ******* stupid to you have to be to think that the democratic candidate for president is actually an Arab?? Nice base, republicans.
     

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