Sorry, I haven't responded back sooner, going back to the lock the doors, call 911 and hide thing......... If the intruders are in your house, what doors are you going to lock? The bathroom door? Definately call 911. I don't own a gun, so what I would do is send my dog out of the bedroom, and call out to the intruder that I have already called 911 and suggest that they leave immediately. Now I am a light sleeper that wakes up in the middle of the night to the strangest noises..........and have not called 911 but have called out to see if anyone was there......nobody has ever responded. The question that I really have, if you have children in the house, would you really hide or would you put yourself in a position of defense of them? If I had children in the house, there is no way that I am hiding, their protection is my responsibility.
So my initial impression was spot on. Not random at all and robbery was the motive and the teens were aware of the risk and had armed themselves in a manner they thought was appropriate. Selling weed to kids is wrong, and "Harry Potter" was probably protecting himself first and foremost, even though he was possibly a dealer. It will be interesting to see how this one all shakes out, probably not the way a lot of folks thought.
So we should expect an apology from grove for his implying anyone with a gun has one just to shoot and kill, while this guy bought one to evidently guard his business activities. Not many certainties in this world, but one I know is I'm glad grove and anyone else willing to run and hide and hope for the best wasn't my dad. These 4 p.o.s. had what was coming and it's a shame they all weren't taken out. But the bigger tragedy was all 5 of these idiots are not lying on a cold slab. F thieves and F drug dealers..
I have several guns and will shoot anyone who breaks into my home...I'm not a mind-reader and any "benefit of the doubt" left the moment they enter the home. I might have some remorse, but not in the same amounts I would if my family were harmed because I would rather try to ask the intruder to go to "time out" than shoot him. And I'd gladly empty the clip. Especially if it were groverat!
Someone breaking into my car pisses me off. Someone breaking into my home really pisses me off. If they steal **** that I really want, then I am super ******* pissed and hungry for retribution. Someone breaking into my home is scary. Based on what happens after that I might be pissed or worse. I could also be dead. Scared first, though. If you break into someone's home and breach that boundary of safety the person that owns the house has established for themselves you deserve to get whupped. One of the worst things you can do without physically touching someone. It is deeply disturbing, especially if the owner is home. I can understand a law that requires the owner to try to avoid confrontation, but that is not always easy to do. We don't all live in mansions that have lockable master suites into which we can retreat. If someone broke into my home I would necessarily have to go out of the one bedroom that locks into the childrens' bedroom, which does not, and then back to my bedroom. It is terrifying to think about. I don't doubt that there are John Wayne idiot types that fantasize about killing and mask that bloodlust with yap about killing intruders. I am sure many of these people feel that such an action is correct and so they cannot easily separate their gross fantasies from 'righteous kills.' I have no guns in my home and don't want any in my home. When I think of someone breaking into my home I think of shooting them. I also can imagine someone breaking into my home, while my family and I are present, and we have no way to know if we can protect ourselves (is the intruder(s) armed, a whacko, some gang idiot whose sense of the value of life is flighty and informed by god knows what kinds of street code, etc.). I hope that never happens, because running around and gathering kids up and diving back into the bedroom while the old lady dials 911 doesn't sound adequate. Lastly, just because someone fantasizes about wasting someone doesn't mean that fulfilling their sick fantasies via killing some fool breaking into their home is wrong. There is a long path to travel toward breaking into a home in order to steal. I have done all sorts of illegal things, but never B & E. That's arch criminal **** even if you don't believe yourself to be an arch criminal. Bottom line: I don't want to kill anyone, but that is not why I don't own a gun. If I had a gun for whatever reason and someone broke into the place I was staying at with my family, home or no home, I would immediately begin thinking about killing the intruder. You might say that I would want to, but only because I don't know what he is going to do and I don't want to chance my family's safety. My love of these people I live with is not rational, per se, but it is real and deep. I don't feel a need to celebrate this guy's killing of break in teens. It is not an interesting story. Very run of the mill. But, even if he is a drug dealer, he has a right to not have people coming into his home uninvited and unannounced. Killing them seems reasonable even at 2 in the afternoon.
The fear of getting shot is useful insofar as it keeps stupid kids from breaking into homes. The best outcome is that nobody breaks the law; the next best outcome is no harm to the victim. Armed homeowners can lead to one of the two best possible outcomes, and I therefore see the phenomenon as a net positive despite the fact that much better, albeit more difficult to implement, solutions exist.
