Texas is #14 in new Sagarin Poll

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by borna_horn, Oct 25, 2009.

  1. borna_horn

    borna_horn 1,000+ Posts

    In Sagarin's ELO-CHESS poll, used in the BCS, Texas is 14th:

    Sagarin Poll

    Anyone else still want to claim that computers know more about football than humans? [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  2. Fritz

    Fritz 500+ Posts

    Part of the problem is that they don't have the computers know the scores of the games. That's ridiculous - obviously humans are going to consider that.

    When Sagarin's poll has the scores factored in, Texas is 4th.
     
  3. mia1994

    mia1994 1,000+ Posts

    Not that I'm a big supporter of the computer polls, but taking a random mid-season poll and offering it as evidence of a failure completely misunderstands how these things work. That said, the BCS sagarin is a nerfed poll.
     
  4. for_real

    for_real 25+ Posts

    It says we are 10...Oct 24.
     
  5. bierce

    bierce 1,000+ Posts

    Sagarin tells the world he thinks his ELO Chess ranking is inferior to his Predictor and his Mixed rankings. He doesn't really understand why the BCS insists on using his ELO Chess ranking.

    ELO Chess is all about wins, losses, and SOS. Texas has yet to play a team that has less than 3 losses.
     
  6. borna_horn

    borna_horn 1,000+ Posts

    The Sagarin "ELO-CHESS" rating used in the BCS - which totally discounts margin of victory - says we are 14th.

    The Sagarin rating which includes MOV - the one Sagarin considers his legit rating - has us 10th.

    The rating which has us #4 is a "pure points" rating, which Sagarin himself does not consider his most legit system, because it takes out SOS.
     
  7. Fritz

    Fritz 500+ Posts

    Ah, OK.

    At any rate:
    * computer polls will look better the more games that are played
    * it is stupid to stipulate that computers can't consider the scores
    * both computer and human polls are flawed - how many times have we seen inexplicable human ballots?
    * people in Iowa, Cincinnati, and Boise St can worry about this - we keep winning and we're in.
     
  8. borna_horn

    borna_horn 1,000+ Posts


     
  9. Sugarpunk

    Sugarpunk 500+ Posts

    It is absolutely absurd that we look to these freakin' pocket protector dorks for anything having to do with the blood and guts sport of football and then have the audacity to label it a "system" and allow it to impact who plays who for all the marbles. When is enough enough?!? Championships should be decided on the field of play! Playoff now! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  10. GHoward

    GHoward 2,500+ Posts

    TO be fair, those 01, and 03 seasons used a different formula, in which the computer rankings were more powerful.
     
  11. Mal

    Mal 100+ Posts

    Don't blame the computer polls. They didn't create this system. The powers that be probably added them to "legitimize" the system. Arguing about this only distracts you from the real problem.
     
  12. JohnnyM

    JohnnyM 2,500+ Posts

    At the end of the USC game they were imploring the computers to "not disrespect USC". [​IMG]
     
  13. stanhin

    stanhin 5,000+ Posts


     
  14. UTperks

    UTperks 25+ Posts

    Oklahoma ranked 51st

    Seems about right
     

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