Tim Tebow is the Greatest College QB of All Time

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  1. GabeRocksSocks

    GabeRocksSocks 1,000+ Posts

    Tim Tebow is the only person who is allowed to divide by zero.
     
  2. borna_horn

    borna_horn 1,000+ Posts

    If Colt beats Tebow in the Rose Bowl, they should retroactively award Texas the '08 national championship. Both teams finished with 1 loss and beat OU by 10 on a neutral field, but they never played each other.

    There is a score to settle on January 7.
     
  3. HighPlainsBevo

    HighPlainsBevo 250+ Posts

    ^^^^^^This x100^^^^^^^
     
  4. borna_horn

    borna_horn 1,000+ Posts

    Runs longer than 30 yards:

    Vince Young

    80 - Oklahoma State 2005
    65 - Nebraska 2003
    64 - Baylor 2003
    60 - Tulane 2003
    60 - Michigan 2004
    59 - Oklahoma 2003
    51 - Rice 2005
    47 - Baylor 2004
    45 - Oklahoma State 2005
    45 - Oklahoma State 2005
    45 - USC 2005
    42 - Oklahoma State 2004
    36 - Missouri 2005
    34 - Missouri 2005
    33 - North Texas 2004
    33 - Missouri 2005
    32 - Ohio State 2005


    Tim Tebow


    55 - Florida International 2009
    47 - Florida State 2009
     
  5. hoopshookem

    hoopshookem 100+ Posts

    Great marketing by HEB, must have given him an old $7 bunch of flowers to run onto field with and he scrawls HEB on his little eye patch for all to see.

    I don't recall, ever, some ***** running onto a FOOTBALL field with flowers. [​IMG]
     
  6. pulque

    pulque 1,000+ Posts


     
  7. wilster427

    wilster427 < 25 Posts

    I went and looked at all of Tebow's rushing TD's and he has 18 1-yard TD runs, 9 2-yard TD runs, and 6 3-yard TD runs. That means well over 1/2 of his TD runs were from 3 yards or less and almost 1/3 were 1 yard runs. As where most QB's would hand to a running back in these situations, Tebow calls his own #. This has allowed him to break several SEC records held by great running backs.
    It is also probably the reason he won a Heisman Trophy when he went 9-4 the year after his team had won a National Championship with a different starting quarterback.
    Tim Tebow has had a great career, but his stats are padded from rushing for 1-3 yards for TD's. He has also been on Florida teams with a lot of talent, but yet he is always given credit for "willing" his team to win in any close game. Tim Tebow is not the greatest player of all time and better yet, not even the best at his position for the past 2 years.
     
  8. borna_horn

    borna_horn 1,000+ Posts

    DING! DING! DING!

    We have a winner! Take away Tebow's easy TDs from 3 yards or less, and what do you have? A very average runner who throws well.

    In Vince you had one of the greatest runners of all time who also threw well enough to make his team one of the greatest ever.
     
  9. texas_ex2000

    texas_ex2000 2,500+ Posts


     
  10. MaduroUTMB

    MaduroUTMB 2,500+ Posts


     
  11. Sultan5000

    Sultan5000 25+ Posts

    Tebow = Greg Louganis
     
  12. hornpharmd

    hornpharmd 5,000+ Posts

    I think Tebow is a great QB, a great athlete, and a very good winner. He didn't do great his sophomore season against the top in the SEC. In his junior season he finally broke out and won the big games. This year his team is obviously undefeated again. I think this SEC title game could be a signature game for his career.

    I think Dorsey was a guy who had one of the best talent pools surrounding him. He was a great winner but I have a hard time putting him up there at the top of the best QBs even this decade.

    VY did so many amazing things and took the team on his back and won perhaps the biggest game ever. And he was only a junior. Imagine what his #s and win totals would have been had he come back for his senior season. He reminds me of Barry Sanders that way. Some guys just won't stack up career #s wise b/c they didn't start all 4 years or b/c they left early.

    Colt has shown that he is a winner but he hasn't shown that he is a champion yet. He needs to come up big these last 2 games to cement his place in history.
     
  13. ptownhorn

    ptownhorn 1,000+ Posts

    somebody w/ photoshop skills should add his face to mt rushmore
     
  14. longtex

    longtex Guest

    The talking head - I think it was on ESPN, Greg somebody? - I saw while waiting for the next round of games after Fla-FSU anointed Teebus as the greatest PLAYER ever, not just QB. I was wondering whether the coaches and the rest of the team had anything to do with his success...

    I'm still expecting the rest of the season to follow the 2005 path: Fla & Tebow greatest of all time, again... our QB finishes second in the Hypesmann, again... we meet them in the Rose Bowl for the NC, again... and we hoist the Crystal Ball, AGAIN.

    Screw 'em. We're Texas.
     
  15. borna_horn

    borna_horn 1,000+ Posts

    I love how when people bring up why Tebow is the "greatest ever" the first thing they mention is his 2 NCs and 1 Heisman.

    Going into the Rose Bowl against Texas, didn't Matt Leinart also have 2 NCs and a Heisman? And unlike Tebow, Leinart actually started for both NC teams. In fact, Leinart never had a year where he didn't either play for or win the NC!

    I put VY in front of Leinart because his junior year he was already better than Leinart was his senior year, and obviously he outplayed him in the Rose Bowl. But I also think it is ludicrous to put Tebow in front of Leinart. That is an insult to everything Leinart accomplished.

    VY and Leinart are the best two QBs of the decade, and Colt and Tebow will duke it out for third place if they meet in Pasadena.
     
  16. hornpharmd

    hornpharmd 5,000+ Posts


     
  17. Steel Shank

    Steel Shank 1,000+ Posts

    If he's so great why hasn't he been a 4 year starter? Who was the all world QB he couldn't beat out as a freshman?
     
  18. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    Tebus was immaculately conceived in a manger in Manila in 1987.
    The year is now only 22 A.T. (After Timmy)

    Please make the appropriate changes to your calendar.
     
  19. 90 Grad

    90 Grad 500+ Posts

    Does anyone besides me forget Tommie Frazier.

    I guess it will take 20 years or so before we can stop hearing about Tebow....or maybe 3 after he has a REggie Bush type NFL career
     
  20. longtex

    longtex Guest

    In reply to:


     
  21. Texex81

    Texex81 500+ Posts


     
  22. Murphy'sBoy

    Murphy'sBoy 1,000+ Posts

    The greatest virgin quarterback of all time
     
  23. Hooky Hornstein

    Hooky Hornstein 100+ Posts

    If Tim Tebow had been at Pearl Harbor, he would've caught all the bombs and torpedos and hurled them back at the Japanese Zeroes.

    But the original poster wanted stats... try the BCS Bowl Game records that Vince Young holds:

    Most Total Yards
    467-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (267 pass, 200 rush)

    Most Total Yards, Championship Game
    467-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (267 pass, 200 rush)

    Most Touchdowns Responsible For (TDs scored and passed for)
    5-Vince Young, Texas vs. Michigan, Rose, Jan. 1, 2005 (4 rush, 1 pass)

    Most Rushing Yards, Championship Game
    200-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (19 attempts)

    Most Rushing Yards By A Quarterback
    200-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (19 attempts)

    Most Rushing Yards By A Quarterback, Championship Game
    200-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (19 attempts)

    Most Rushing Yards Per Attempt (min. 15 attempts)
    10.53-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Jan. 4, 2006 (19 for 200)

    Most Rushing Yards Per Attempt, Championship Game (min. 15 attempts)
    10.53-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Jan. 4, 2006 (19 for 200)

    Most Rushing Touchdowns
    4-Vince Young, Texas vs. Michigan, Rose, Jan. 1, 2005

    Most Rushing Touchdowns, Championship Game
    3-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006

    Most Pass Completions, Championship Game
    30-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (40 attempts)

    Most Passes Without An Interception, Championship Game
    40-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Jan. 4, 2006

    Highest Completion Percentage, Championship Game (min. 20 attempts)
    .750-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Jan. 4, 2006 (30 of 40)

    SCORING
    Most Points Scored
    24-Vince Young, Texas vs. Michigan, Rose, Jan. 1, 2005 (4 TDs)

    Most Points Scored, Championship Game
    20-Vince Young, Texas vs. Southern California, Rose, Jan. 4, 2006 (3 TDs, 1 2-pt. conversion)

    For comparison, here are the BCS Bowl Game records Here are the ones Tim Tebow holds:

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    But to the passionately uninfomed, those stats probably won't even make an impression because they will continue to believe what they want to believe.

    They'll imagine that Florida actually went undefeated last year.

    They'll imagine that Florida had a good season in 2007.

    They'll imagine that Tim Tebow was the starter in 2006.

    They'll believe Tebow is a god and they won't be bothered with trivial details, like... reality.
     
  24. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    Awesome post Hooky. That ought to put this non-sense to rest, but sadly, it won't. SECspn will see to it.
     
  25. borna_horn

    borna_horn 1,000+ Posts

    Tebow is the greatest quarterback in history at calling his own number inside the 5-yard-line.
     
  26. accuratehorn

    accuratehorn 10,000+ Posts

    Not only are three Nobel scientists studying Tebow's energy, which if harnessed will solve America's dependence on foreign oil, but two others are attempting to duplicate a portion of his coolness to end global warming.
     
  27. borna_horn

    borna_horn 1,000+ Posts

    I decided to go back and research just how many of Tim Tebow's rushing TDs went for minimal yardage, and then I compared the results to VY. The results are very enlightening.While VY scored 19 TDs (51.4% of his total) from 10 yards or more, Tebow has only scored 10 (17.9% of his total). And of course VY played one less season.
    The most amazing stat is how many of Tebow's TDs come from 5 yards or less - 71.4% - compared to 35.1% for VY!!! And from 2 yards or less - 48.2% for TT, 32.4% for VY. Nearly half of Tebow's illustrious rushing TDs are from the 1 or 2 yard variety. Nearly 1/3 are from 1 yard, basically a quarterback sneak.

    This is the greatest player of all time???

    Tebow has only scored 16 rushing touchdowns of greater than 5 yards in his whole career! Vince scored 24 in just three years.

    VY's average TD run was 15.7 yards. Tebow's average is only 6.59.


    Keep in mind that the one statistic that Tebow worshippers point to first as evidence of his greatness are his rushing TDs. Never mind that he only averages 4.2 yards a carry over his career (VY averaged 6.8). Never mind that in four years he did not surpass the total rushing yards gained by Vince in three years. He scores all these touchdowns, so he must be great, right?

    How about 2007, when he won the Heisman based largely on being college football's first 20/20 guy? 91% of his 23 rushing TDs came from within 10 yards! Over half of them were from 3 yards or less! Meanwhile, more than half of VY's career rushing TDs were from 10 yards or more.

    This is just more evidence of the hyperbole lavished upon what is otherwise among the great quarterbacks of our era.

    Compare the numbers:

    Yardage for each rushing touchdown

    Vince Young's rushing touchdowns


    2003: 16, 6, 1, 13, 1, 27, 1, 2, 65, 23, 1
    2004: 23, 2, 2, 1, 11, 1, 9, 42, 18, 3, 20, 60, 10, 23
    2005: 2, 33, 1, 16, 9, 10, 80, 8, 2, 14, 17, 8

    Total: 37
    Average yards per TD: 15.70
    30+: 13.5%
    20+: 27%
    10+: 51.4%
    6-10: 13.5%
    5 or less: 35.1%
    2 or less: 32.4%
    1 yard: 18.9%

    Tim Tebow's rushing touchdowns


    2006: 1, 2, 1, 16, 12, 20, 1, 1
    2007: 1, 3, 16, 7, 5, 9, 6, 2, 9, 2, 2, 3, 1, 1, 5, 1, 3, 2, 5, 2, 23, 5, 1
    2008: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 2, 1, 8, 26, 8, 1, 4
    2009: 1, 4, 1, 3, 2, 26, 23, 5, 1, 1, 55, 18, 1

    Total: 56
    Average yards per TD: 6.59
    30+: 1.8%
    20+: 10.7%
    10+: 17.9%
    6-10: 10.7%
    5 or less: 71.4%
    2 or less: 48.2%
    1 yard: 32.1%
     
  28. UTEE

    UTEE 1,000+ Posts


     
  29. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    Tebus is the immaculately conceived love child of Johnny Unitas and General George S Patton.

    They came to Mrs Tebus in a dream and told her "'Do not be afraid, Mrs. Tebus, you have found favor with the football Gods. You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name 'Timmy' ".
     
  30. accuratehorn

    accuratehorn 10,000+ Posts

    Tim Tebow's moral standards are so inspirational that fully 75% of Miami's prostitutes have entered nunneries, and the other 25% have become abstinance instructors at local girl's schools.
     

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