19-12

Discussion in 'Men’s Basketball' started by Horns11, Dec 3, 2010.

  1. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    Posted on the football board, but whatever.

    Record before the conference tourney. Calling it now.
     
  2. Alex_de_Large

    Alex_de_Large 1,000+ Posts

    Will you also call a 1st round exit in the NCAA tournament?
     
  3. UTAustin92

    UTAustin92 250+ Posts

    24-7

    I like the way this team has been playing. Much different attitude and the chemistry is much better. Joseph and Thompson will only get better as the year progress. Thompson is the real deal(looks like a one and done unfortunately). I like what Hamilton has been doing so far this year. Lucas has been a pleasant surprise with his imrproved defense which was lacking last year.

    12/05/10 at USC Los Angeles, Calif. 9:30 pm CT Win
    12/11/10 vs. Texas State Austin, Texas 3:00 pm CT Win
    12/14/10 vs. North Florida Austin, Texas 7:00 pm CT Win
    12/18/10 vs. North Carolina Greensboro, N.C. 3:00 pm CT Win
    12/22/10 at Michigan State East Lansing, Mich. 6:00 pm CT Loss
    12/31/10 vs. Coppin State Austin, Texas 1:00 pm CT Win
    01/04/11 vs. Arkansas Austin, Texas 8:00 pm CT Win
    01/08/11 vs. Connecticut Austin, Texas 2:30 pm CT Loss
    01/11/11 at Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas 6:00 pm CT Win
    01/15/11 vs. Oklahoma Austin, Texas 3:00 pm CT Win
    01/19/11 vs. Texas A&M Austin, Texas 8:00 pm CT Win
    01/22/11 at Kansas Lawrence, Kan. 3:00 pm CT Loss
    01/26/11 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. 6:30 pm CT WIn
    01/29/11 vs. Missouri Austin, Texas 8:00 pm CT Win
    01/31/11 at Texas A&M College Station, Texas 8:00 pm CT Loss
    02/05/11 vs. Texas Tech Austin, Texas 8:00 pm CT Win
    02/09/11 at Oklahoma Norman, Okla. 8:00 pm CT WIn
    02/12/11 vs. Baylor Austin, Texas 3:00 pm CT Win
    02/16/11 vs. Oklahoma State Austin, Texas 8:00 pm CT Win
    02/19/11 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb. 12:45 pm CT Win
    02/22/11 vs. Iowa State Austin, Texas 7:00 pm CT Win
    02/26/11 at Colorado Boulder, Colo. 3:00 pm CT Win
    02/28/11 vs. Kansas State Austin, Texas 8:00 pm CT Loss
    03/05/11 at Baylor Waco, Texas 8:00 pm CT Loss
    Phillips 66 Big 12 Championship
    03/09/11 First Round Games Kansas City, Mo. TBA
    03/10/11 Quarterfinals Kansas City, Mo. TBA
    03/11/11 Semifinals Kansas City, Mo. TBA
    03/12/11 Championship Game Kansas City, Mo. TBA
     
  4. EJC+1

    EJC+1 250+ Posts

    I love the optimism but I see us more like a 21-10 record and 10-6 in conference.
     
  5. Third Coast

    Third Coast 10,000+ Posts

    I see a 20-22 win season and a 4th, or 5th seed in the big dance with a probable second round exit.
     
  6. caryhorn

    caryhorn 5,000+ Posts

    We lack a slashing point guard, and need a more consistent jump shooter.
    Therefore, around a 20win season and first round tourney win. A good season. Next year could be great depending on who stays from this class.
     
  7. BevoMDCXVIII

    BevoMDCXVIII 100+ Posts

    I agree with rex the Big12 is a big question mark this year. Every ranked team has had some close games against teams they should have won.

    Saying we will have a 19 win season is laughable though. We will win at least 12 wins out of conference with only MSU and UCONN being a real test. It is possible that we could split those games, MSU looks vulnerable but we play them their so I don't know how well this young team will handle that game. After that I think 11-5 or 12-4 in the Big12 is very doable. A&M, Tech, Oklahoma, and Okie st. all look very average. Nebraska, Iowa St., and Colorado are bleh. We can split with Baylor. That leaves Missouri (who i think we beat), KSU at home, and away to Kansas.

    Over all I'd say 23-24 wins before the tourny, then maybe a 2nd round or sweet 16 exit.
     
  8. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    So you think we'll win both home and away for every south division team except Baylor? That's far more laughable than only winning 19 games.
     
  9. muschyD

    muschyD 250+ Posts

    Baylor- will pose some problems
    Oklahoma- lost to freakin' Chaminade
    Oklahoma State- doesn't look like all that and a bag of chips
    Texas A&M- looks like a team full of aggies
    Texas Tech- already gotten smoked by some mediocre teams

    It's possible to go undefeated in the South with a little luck. Saying that we will beat everyone but Baylor is laughable, is laughable.
     
  10. BevoMDCXVIII

    BevoMDCXVIII 100+ Posts


     
  11. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts


     
  12. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    Still think we go 9-1 against OU, OK St., A&M, Tech, and Baylor after tonight's performance?
     
  13. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Winebibber

    Yes, yes I do. The USC game was a turd in the punchbowl, no doubt. But there were things to like after we got off the 0-fer to start the 2nd half.

    Do you enjoy predicting doom and gloom for the team?
     
  14. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    If 19-12, bubble team expectations are "gloom and doom" considering some of the obvious issues we have, then call me a gloom'n'doomer.

    This is a team learning a new offense with no post presence and no true "threat" at PG, and people are predicting 26-win seasons. If realism is bad, then so be it.
     
  15. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Winebibber

    I did not say anything about 26 wins. I said I still think we can realistically go 9-1 against the Big XII South teams, who all have glaring weaknesses of their own.

    Now, we may end up 8-2, or 7-3, or 5-5 against them. But as of now, given what all of the South teams have shown so far, I think Baylor and Texas are the best of the bunch, and I think 9-1 is reasonably achievable.
     
  16. Royalwon

    Royalwon 25+ Posts

    I was thinking 20 wins before USC, now I'm thinking we may need some luck to win 20. Offensive struggles against tough defenses will be the rule, not the exception.

    Still should make the March tourney, and maybe win the first round game.
     
  17. cochamps

    cochamps 2,500+ Posts

    So we now need to go 11-10 to get to the 19-12 prediction?
     
  18. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    Yep. I'm standing by it. Heck, I'd be the first to eat crow if I was wrong, because at least that way the team is hopefully doing well.

    Just look at who we played tonight and our shooting percentage. Now extrapolate that against a team like KU.

    I think it's actually a pretty safe bet that we split "the season" on out.

    I don't know how anyone could be "confident" about any of our remaining nonconference games except Coppin State. And even they gave us a run for our money in the 1997 tourney. I'll give us a generous 2-3 record through 1/8.

    Then the conference schedule starts, and it's a safe bet to go 9-7 in that. Funny how that was also our record last year when we had 3 current NBA players. Losses to KU, KSU, MU, splits with Baylor and A&M, and 2 games we could have won but didn't (because we have those EVERY season).
     
  19. TXThorn

    TXThorn Guest

    Horns11, just to let you know you have company with your pick...I looked at the schedule and did my prediction this morning (without ever knowing about this post). My conclusion was 19 wins...20 possibly.
     
  20. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    With this team it's almost impossible to guess a record. We'll probably beat one we shouldn't and lose to a couple we shouldn't.

    I say we will make the tourney and lose in the 2nd round. I know, I'm taking the easy way out.
     
  21. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Winebibber

    20+ wins is looking more likely all the time.
     
  22. bazbo

    bazbo 500+ Posts

    10 reasons we will win at least 21 by conference tourney:
    1) Jordan Hamilton scores at will
    2) Coppin St
    3) We will certainly go more than 8-8 in the big 12
    4) Jordan Hamilton
    5) Cory Joseph
    6) Defense - opponents are shooting 36% from field
    7) FTs - not exactly great but getting better, we are shooting 65% from the line, better than last year.
    8) Jordan Hamilton
    9) We are a good rebounding team this year
    10) I read it in my tea leaves
     
  23. GemStateJim

    GemStateJim 2,500+ Posts


     
  24. Dionysus

    Dionysus Cocky + Relaxed Admin

    Reliable free throw shooting should win us a couple, as usual.
     
  25. uisge beatha

    uisge beatha 1,000+ Posts

    Still sticking w/ this?
     
  26. BevoMDCXVIII

    BevoMDCXVIII 100+ Posts

    I'll go ahead and up my prediction. I think we can go 24-25 wins before the BIG12 tourny. I'll call Kansas a loss and @ a&m a loss because i think they will be fired up for revenge. The rest of the BIG12 south schedule looks winnable. Honestly after Kansas and a&m, I'm most worried about @Nebraska and @Colorado which says a lot.

    Overall I'll say a sweet-16 should be expected, elite 8 doable, a final 4 is not out of the question, and a possible national title run with a lot of luck and the team absolutely on fire. Also I'll say a 30 win season baring injuries. This team is solid.
     
  27. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Winebibber


     
  28. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    Like I said, I'll eat crow. Not afraid of that.

    Since we've only played 3 conference games to this point, and all 3 were potential wins in my early prediction, I'm not quite going to back off of the conference record yet.

    The more impressive thing about this team is how they handled themselves in the tough nonconf. part. I said 2-3 from the tough Dec.-Jan. stretch, and they went 4-1. I guess that alone is enough to push the prediction to 21-10. The MSU game was huge from a rallying and teamwork standpoint.

    Now the problem becomes what happens when conference opponents realize those aforementioned weaknesses (post play and PG) and exploit them. If Thompson gets bottled up, we basically just have to jack up shots from 10+ feet for the whole game, or hope that he can redistribute the ball to someone in motion (which has been tricky for Barnes-coached squads going back to before Texas). And if Joseph/Brown are off one game, that's all it would take to make an easily-winnable conference game very tight or a potential loss.
     
  29. Horn2BWild

    Horn2BWild 100+ Posts

    13 games left. This team is very conservatively, 6-7 over those next 13 games. Even with that type of epic fail, they end up at 21-10.

    But.................I just don't see that happening. This team is actually progressing this year game-by-game. 9-4 over the next 13 is looking VERY likely which puts them at 24-7 overall. A borderline 2 seed , solid 3 seed if that ends up being the case.

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  30. utempire

    utempire 1,000+ Posts

    This is a good team. They actually run a decent offense and are playing good defense again.
     

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