2016 Recruiting is on.. (TX top-50 and our offers)

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  1. jayakris

    jayakris 2,500+ Posts

    Nothing much to report except that Charlie is doing terrible so far [​IMG] ... 247sports has our class listed at #21 right now, and we will never ever catch TCU who are at #3 and Baylor at #7. It is the same old crap. Does Charlie even know how to recruit? Aggy was #2 by summer last year and we were pushing toward #20... You can't fall behind like that.... Wait... what?... You mean it went all right last time?

    Anyway, currently TCU is at #3 with 5 four-star recruits and 3 three-star guys. Baylor is at #7 with even a 5-star (OT Patrick Hudson) and 4 three-stars. But the prevailing feeling in recruiting circles seems to be that about half of these guys will probably move later, as aggy and Texas starts moving in harder. When you have such successful programs like BU and TCU offering you, you may as well take it up and then wait to see if the bigger name programs will court you hard with the right pitches on playing time and fit. So it is understandable. For a little perspective, WVU was around #7 at this time last year and fell to below 35 in the end.

    A&m is at #17 with one 5-star (OT Greg Little of Allen HS, who is Kyler's cousin). Aggy had a junior day on the Jan 23rd weekend which was a bit of a dud, as they were preoccupied with the Charlie attack and had no time to go hard after anybody (with 3 top invitees being no-shows). But aggy will get going soon too.

    We currently have two top-150 4-star WR commits (both top-100 on scout) in Colin Johnson (Johhnnie's son) and Regggie Hemphil-Mapp, and a 3-star who is expected to finish as a 4-star, LB Demarco Boyd.

    We need at least 2 or 3 DTs and at least 3 OLs next time, along with a couple of safeties and of course a good QB. At other positions, we can take some risks and go for top talents, even if we miss some lower guys because of that.

    It will be a smaller class for us next time. As of today, if we sign up no other players till next January, and no attrition happens, we can only pick up 15 players, to stay at 85 or below in total. But that will change. At least about 5 players are expected to be lost on attrition (a couple of Charlie dismissals and the rest transfers, probably) and may be 1 or 2 of the LOI players may not make it in, due to grade issues by June (Ronnie Major being the most probable one). Plus maybe an underclassman could declare for the draft like a Ridgeway or somebody. Generally I expect about 20 to 23 or so spots available next year (one of which will go to Merrick). Working with the assumption of 20 spots looks rather safe for now.

    Our junior day was supposed to be next Saturday, as of even last week, but is now postponed to Feb 28th. I will soon post a list of names that appear to be generally confirmed for the junior day.
     
  2. arieshorn

    arieshorn 1,000+ Posts

    Man what's the DT class looking like for 2016 in Texas? We need some DTs since we only signed one for 2015 and we lose Tank to graduation and Ridgeway possibly to the NFL if he decides to go early. Is Ed Oliver worth a look?
     
  3. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts


     
  4. UTExinPDX

    UTExinPDX 1,000+ Posts

    Texas has to do some major catching up to do.
     
  5. eastexhorn

    eastexhorn 250+ Posts

    Offence 1QB, 1RB, 1TE, 3OL and 2WR already commited.
    Defence 1DE, 1DT, 1-2 More LBS, 1CB and 1 Safety. Any other space should be to attrition where some one left IMO.
     
  6. jayakris

    jayakris 2,500+ Posts

    I made a spreadsheet of top-50 Texas players (as per the 247 industry-composite rankings) and their rankings by the 4 main rating-services (rivals, scout, ESPN and 247). Here they are, followed by others offers we have, both in-state and out-of state. These are the offers I know of, as of now. Texas offers are in orange and commits are in green. Hopefully this will be handy for everybody to see where things stand as of now. Lots more offers to be made but our coaches will wait a bit, as spots are fewer and some positions like WR, RB and CB are not big priorities.
    Texas Top-50
    1. # 1 (4, 5, 1, 1) ___ OT Gregory Little, Allen (Allen, TX) 6-5/282 ___ [Texas A&M commit]
    2. # 15 (26, 35, 11, 11) ___ OT Patrick Hudson, Silsbee (Silsbee, TX) 6-5.5/325 ___ [Baylor commit]
    3. # 20 (44, 39, 15, 36) ___ S Brandon Jones , Nacogdoches (Nacogdoches, TX) 5-11/183 ___ [33 offers]
    4. # 25 (51, 70, 22, 25) ___ S Deontay Anderson, Manvel (Manvel, TX) 6-1/192 ___ [35 offers]
    5. # 28 (33, 40, 31, 22) ___ S Eric Monroe, North Shore (Houston, TX) 6-0/180 ___ [15 offers]
    6. # 31 (42, 20, 27, 81) ___ DT Ed Oliver, Westfield (Houston, TX) 6-2/285 ___ [11 offers]
    7. # 44 (169, 26, 12, 43) ___ WR Devin Duvernay, Sachse (Sachse, TX) 5-11/185 ___ [33 offers]
    8. # 47 (78, 14, 23, 145) ___ DT Kendell Jones, Shoemaker (Killeen, TX) 6-4.5/315 ___ [10 offers]
    9. # 68 (186, 48, 43, 110) ___ TE Kaden Smith, Marcus (Flower Mound, TX) 6-5/235 ___ [16 offers]

    10. # 78 (149, 120, 113, 42) ___ WR Courtney Lark, Bellaire (Bellaire, TX) 6-1/170 ___ [TCU commit]
    11. # 95 (50, 160, 148, 128) ___ WDE Erick Fowler, Manor (Manor, TX) 6-3/210 ___ [14 offers]
    12. # 97 (58, 62, 286, 64) ___ WR Dee Anderson, West Mesquite (Mesquite, TX) 6-4/177 ___ [LSU commit]
    13. # 103 (156, 56, 201, 106) ___ CB Jared Mayden, Sachse (Sachse, TX) 6-0/190 ___ [29 offers]
    14. # 106 (224, 52, 161, 96) ___ WR Reggie Hemphill-Mapps, Manvel (Manvel, TX) 6-0/170 ___ [Texas commit]
    15. # 117 (137, 239, 118, 142) ___ CB Travon Fuller, Athens (Athens, TX) 5-11/160 ___ [Texas A&M commit]
    16. # 129 (147, 243, 87, 202) ___ ATH/S Christian Wallace, Tompkins (Katy, TX) 6-2/203 ___ [TCU commit]
    17. # 131 (208, 80, 233, 87) ___ SDE Isaiah Chambers, Aldine MacArthur (Houston, TX) 6-4/245 ___ [18 offers]
    18. # 132 (138, 228, 185, 168) ___ WDE Marvin Terry, South Oak Cliff (Dallas, TX) 6-2/216 ___ [11 offers]
    19. # 135 (165, 92, 160, 223) ___ APB Kameron Martin, Memorial (Port Arthur, TX) 5-10/170 ___ [Baylor commit]
    20. # 140 (202, 248, 99, 162) ___ ATH Devwah Whaley, Central Senior (Beaumont, TX) 6-0/190 ___ [17 offers]
    21. # 142 (216, 174, 174, 100) ___ ILB Dontavious Jackson, Alief Elsik (Houston, TX) 6-2/237 ___ [27 offers]
    22. # 174 (212, 23, 147, --) ___ SDE Justin Madubuike, McKinney North (Mckinney, TX) 6-3/245 ___ [17 offers]
    23. # 181 ( --, 21, 149, 191) ___ WR Tren'Davian Dickson, Navasota (Navasota, TX) 6-1/178 ___ [Baylor commit]
    24. # 183 (160, 190, 246, 137) ___ DUAL Shane Buechele, Lamar (Arlington, TX) 6-2/185 ___ [17 offers]
    25. # 190 (211, 201, 237, 135) ___ WDE Mark Jackson, Steele (Cibolo, TX) 6-3/215 ___ [7 offers]

    26. # 191 (61, 143, 258, ) ___ OT Jean Delance, North Mesquite (Mesquite, TX) 6-5/270 ___ [Oklahoma commit]
    27. # 192 (236, 133, 176, 221) ___ WR Tyrie Cleveland, Westfield (Houston, TX) 6-3/180 ___ [Texas A&M commit]
    28. # 206 ( --, --, 150, 188) ___ PRO Brennen Wooten, Central (San Angelo, TX) 6-2/180 ___ [TCU commit]
    29. # 210 ( --, 99, --, --) ___ DUAL Tristen Wallace, DeSoto (DeSoto, TX) 6-3/225 ___ [Texas Tech commit]
    30. # 218 (213, 110, --, --) ___ CB Jaylon Jones, Allen (Allen, TX) 5-11/175 ___ [12 offers]
    31. # 235 ( --, --, 183, 198) ___ ATH D'Eriq King, Manvel (Manvel, TX) 5-10/161 ___ [TCU commit]
    32. # 237 (126, --, 144, 244) ___ OT J.P. Urquidez, Copperas Cove (Copperas Cove, TX ) 6-6/299 ___ [25 offers]
    33. # 239 (167, --, --, 197) ___ RB Kyle Porter, Katy (Katy, TX) 5-11/190 ___ [4 offers]
    34. # 242 (231, 197, --, --) ___ WR T.J. Vasher, Rider (Wichita Falls, TX) 6-4/170 ___ [5 offers]
    35. # 245 ( --, 104, --, --) ___ OLB McKinley Mitchell, Plano West (Plano, TX) 6-2/194 ___ [7 offers]
    36. # 252 ( --, 82, 284, 233) ___ DT Michael Williams, All Saints Episcopal (Fort Worth, TX) 6-2/280 ___ [21 offers]
    37. # 258 ( --, 156, --, --) ___ SDE Andrew Fitzgerald, Marcus (Flower Mound, TX) 6-4/245 ___ [5 offers]
    38. # 277 (227, --, 245, 140) ___ PRO Zach Smith, Grandview (Grandview, TX) 6-4/215 ___ [Baylor commit]
    39. # 284 ( --, 168, --, --) ___ CB KeShawn Somerville, Hendrickson (Pflugerville, TX) 5-10/170 ___ [TCU commit]
    40. # 296 ( --, --, 288, 171) ___ ILB Maciah Long, North Shore (Houston, TX) 6-2/205 ___ [6 offers]
    41. # 300 (190, --, --, --) ___ PRO Jalen Hurts, Channelview (Channelview, TX) 6-2/188 ___ [9 offers]
    42. # 303 ( --, 138, --, --) ___ DT Bravvion Roy, Spring HS (Spring, TX) 6-1/285 ___ [5 offers]
    43. # 315 ( --, --, --, --) ___ CB Grayland Arnold, Kountze (Kountze, TX) 5-10/173 ___ [Baylor commit]
    44. # 316 ( --, 297, --, --) ___ CB Eric Cuffee, Waco (Waco, TX) 5-11/187 ___ [14 offers]
    45. # 317 ( --, --, --, --) ___ DT Braylon Jones, John Tyler (Tyler, TX) 6-3/274 ___ [4 offers]
    46. # 332 (197, --, 275, --) ___ RB Rakeem Boyd, Stratford (Houston, TX) 5-11/200 ___ [5 offers]
    47. # 338 ( --, --, --, --) ___ RB Da'Leon Ward, Skyline (Dallas, TX) 5-11/180 ___ [3 offers]
    48. # 340 ( --, --, --, --) ___ ATH Zach Hall , Robert E Lee (Tyler, TX) 5-10/170 ___ [7 offers]
    49. # 347 ( --, 66, --, --) ___ OLB Jeffrey McCulloch, Aldine Davis (Houston, TX) 6-2/225 ___ [32 offers]
    50. # 348 ( --, 150, --, --) ___ WDE Brandon Bowen, Byron Nelson (Trophy Club, TX) 6-4.5/220 ___ [4 offers]

    Other offers (in-state and out-of-state)

    # 8 (13, 32, 3, 5) ___ PRO Malik Henry, IMG Academy (Thousand Oaks, CA) 6-3/180 ___ [FSU commit]
    # 16 (6, 7, 28, 65) ___ PRO Shea Patterson, Calvary Baptist Academy (Shreveport, LA) 6-2/195 ___ [26 offers]
    # 57 (67, 227, 26, 46) ___ PRO Dwayne Haskins, The Bullis School (Potomac, MD) 6-2/185 ___ [34 offers]

    # 71 (60, 61, 130, 133) ___ WR Collin Johnson, Valley Christian (San Jose, CA) 6-5/200 ___ [Texas commit]
    # 66 (64, 78, 77, 119) ___ WR Mykel Jones, Patterson (Patterson, LA) 6-0/180 ___ [12 offers]
    # 295 ( --, 267, 253, --) ___ WR Tre Nixon, Viera (Melbourne, FL) 6-1/180 ___ [28 offers]
    # 205 ( --, 256, 222, 141) ___ OG Parker Boudreaux, Bishop Moore Catholic (Orlando, FL ) 6-4.5/282 ___ [76 offers]
    #cc6600># 263 (125, 209, --, --) ___ SDE Joe Jackson, Gulliver Prep (Miami, FL) 6-4/229 ___ [Miami commit]

    # 566 ( --,---, --, --) ___ ATH/ILB Demarco Boyd, Gilmer (Gilmer, TX) 5-11/215 ___ [Texas commit]
    # -- ( --, 284, --, --) ___ ATH/RB Lil'Jordan Humphrey, Southlake Carroll (Southlake, TX) 6-5/195 ___ [8 offers]

    The top 4 or 5 from Texas are expected to be 5 star recruits. It is the "year of the safeties". Among the OOS offers, the two QB offers Henrry and Patterson are 5-stars. The Texas top 40 are fairly safe to be 4-stars (as most of these guys shouldn't drop below a national top-400. Typically the final list of a Texas top-50 would all be 4-stars. Count the OOS top-300 (composite ranking) as 4-stars.
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2015
  7. jayakris

    jayakris 2,500+ Posts

    Some other notes. Greg Little, who will be a top-3 (if not #1) recruit in the country is Kyler Murray's cousin. Flipping him out of A&M would be tough, though if Kyler goes to baseball or something, anything is possible. We have a good shot at Brandon Jones, five-star safety who is #3 in Texas currently.

    We need DTs. Though not impossible, Ed Oliver may prove to be tough at DT for us (due to some issues with some gentleman associated to Spring Westfield HS, the same place that as a minimum did not discourage Weathersby from decommitting from us). We have been on Kendall Jones for quite a while and have a high chance on him. He was sky-high on us when he came early last year, then cooled off a bit but apparently it should pick up again. Not sure how high on Texas Erick Fowler (DE) is, but he is literally from Austin, so we should get him somehow. we have offered 4-star DT Michael Willaims and probably may be leading for him. Good that this is a good year for DTs in Texas, just when we absolutely must get some 2 or 3 of them.

    OT Patrick Hudson could possibly be flipped from Baylor but that may not be easy either, because he likes a smaller town or what not, as I read somewhere.

    On the quarterback front, this is not a great year at all for QBs in Texas. we are in good shape with th best on the board, Shane Buechele. Everybody wants us to get She Patterson from Louisiana, but that dude has been a big LSU lean, as his brother had a job there, and now is becoming a big Ole Miss lean, as his brother got hired there. The offer to 5-star Malik Henry in California may not get too far, but the offer to Dwayne Haskins in Maryland has a chance to get somewhere. Actually I saw a tweet from Haskins a couple of weeks ago, ""Can't wait for Texas!" (I think he is coming fro our junior day; will try to confirm). The other QB name to keep an eye on, is Xavier Gaines (Dual threat) ranked around #150 in the composite rankings. From Frostproof, Florida. We haven't offered but he is Cecil Cherry's cousin, so we are automatically in it! Tristen Wallace could possibly flipped from Texas Tech, and he is actually very good too.

    Do not pay attention to Collin Johnson's ranking. The rating services are out of their mind. Do they even look at some of these guys from Northern California? Watch his junior film, and one would wonder how the heck Collin Johnson shouldn't be ranked top-50 (actually he should be a top-30 five-star, but that's just my feeling).

    We seem to be very high on Jeffrey McCulloch, at LB, maybe even more than Dontavious Jackson, who is ranked quite a bit higher. But look at McCulloch's offers, and one would think the coaches know more than the recruiting services.

    Running back Devwah Whaley seems to be more sought-after than his rankings show. We may start to lead on that guy now, because he is from PJ Locke's school and they are big friends.

    We made a curious offer to Lil'Jordan Humphrey, who so far has got only into ESPN top-300 rankings and is kinda unknown. Quite an athlete. Could be one of the Charlie specials this time, I guess.
     
  8. Dionysus

    Dionysus Cocky + Relaxed Admin

    Jay is already crushing it for 2016. Good stuff! [​IMG]
     
  9. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 5,000+ Posts


     
  10. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts


     
  11. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    Jay, do you know the list of all the players we've offered?
     
  12. jayakris

    jayakris 2,500+ Posts

    ^^ I think the ones I have in orange above are the ones we have offered so far (about 31 of them). Need to check if there are any others, but I doubt it.

    I had missed a couple of names at first, We have offered Justin Madubuike at WDE and Kyle Porter at RB. Both are pretty high on us for now. EDIT: We have offered CB Jared Mayden also. I just made those lines orange above.

    Two other names who may have offers from us are 5-star top-25 OT Ben Cleveland (Georgia commit), and the fast-rising top-40 DT Derek Brown, both from Georgia. I saw Colt Barber at horns247 list them this weekend but I haven't seen much discussion on them, so I'm not sure.

    I would think we will make another round of offers by the Feb 29th junior day.
     
  13. OldHippie

    OldHippie 2,500+ Posts

    I remember seeing video on Lil' Jordan Humphrey, but I can't remember where. He is a 6'5" RB who is really quick and runs like a much smaller back. Even though he looks skinny, he seems to have some power and can break some tackles. I'd offer him as an ATH and see how big he gets. I think he's a very intriguing player and may turn out freakishly good.

    Edit: Highlights Lil' Jordan Humphrey, 6-5, 195 RB.
     
  14. jayakris

    jayakris 2,500+ Posts

    And it starts... Christian Wallace, top-150 four-star athlete (probably safety) just decommitted from TCU, as per his twitter. He has an offer from us and Colt Barber (horn247) and Brian Perroni (aggy247) just CBed him to Texas. All the same old stuff just like last year. Christian was waiting for us at hornfans to get going with the 2016 recruiting, to decommit. Oh yes, 2016 recruiting has started [​IMG]
     
  15. gahornphan

    gahornphan 500+ Posts

    Lil' Jordan Humphrey's running style, stride and moves, especially when he gets into the open field, reminds me of VY.
     
  16. Bill in Sinton

    Bill in Sinton 5,000+ Posts

    jayakris what about our kicking situation? I feel it is important to have a good punter and place kicker for obvious reasons.
     
  17. jayakris

    jayakris 2,500+ Posts

    I think punting by itself was not as big an issue as we felt. The real problem was with coverage, which hopefully will get fixed with much better talented depth to play ST and a single coach handling ST next year. On kicking, Nick Rose was quite fine in the end. He was 11-3 in the last 14 kicks with about 5 or 6 kicks from beyond 45 yards, including a game winner kick. He has serious leg to kick for touchbacks too. He did poorly in his first few kicks, going 3-4, that's all. I think Nick Jordan is on scholarship and available for 2016 too, so, I suspect kicker and punter are not priorities. I won't be surprised if they pick a kicker in the end though. Anyway, I have not seen anything about any offers to kickers/punters.
     
  18. Bill in Sinton

    Bill in Sinton 5,000+ Posts

    Thanks Jay! [​IMG]
     
  19. Bevo1970

    Bevo1970 100+ Posts

    This post was made just before going to the new 2015 platform. Post as normal after it if you wish.

    jayakris
    (Hornfans Recruiting Guru)
    02/10/15 11:03 AM
    Re: 2016 Recruiting is on.. (TX top-50 and our offers)

    Another offer went out yesterday. And it's another one that our staff has evaluated to be of much higher quality at the LB position than the recruiting services have. We still haven't offered the Texas top-20 LB Dontavius Jackson, but made an offer to a 3-star (in the lower end of the Texas top-100), Jordan Carmouche of Manvel. He is currently ranked around #700 in the nation on 247's industry composite ranking.

    He has 9 offers so far, including Missouri and Arkansas, so people have noticed him. He seemed thrilled like a puppy at the offer, at his twitter. Now Baylor has also offered today, but they are a day late on Charlie!

    jayakris
    (Hornfans Recruiting Guru)
    02/10/15 03:23 PM
    Re: 2016 Recruiting is on.. (TX top-50 and our offers)

    4-star top-200 WR Tren'Davian Dickson just decommitted from Baylor. Probably not one we will try to get in on, as we seem to have a full plate we working on at WR, and probably will only take one more of them. But, we may stay in touch with him though. He's pretty good.

    caryhorn
    (2500+ posts)
    02/10/15 07:15 PM
    Re: 2016 Recruiting is on.. (TX top-50 and our offers)

    Lil Jordon needs to be a Horn. He has it all. [​IMG]

    caryhorn
    (2500+ posts)
    02/12/15 07:43 PM
    Re: 2016 Recruiting is on.. (TX top-50 and our offers)

    Jay,

    Will you be editing the list above to reflect changes in player status as changes occur in the future? This is a great list, very informative and I really appreciate it.

    thanks.

    jayakris
    (Hornfans Recruiting Guru)
    02/12/15 10:15 PM
    Re: 2016 Recruiting is on.. (TX top-50 and our offers)

    I will try to edit it every now and then, as we go on. There are about 4 more offers we have made this week. Waiting for the new site to come up, to add some more info, rather than retype everything later....

    I35
    (2500+ posts)
    02/12/15 10:52 PM
    Re: 2016 Recruiting is on.. (TX top-50 and our offers)

    Jay, he (Navasota's Tren'Davian Dickson) said "the Horns would be in strong shape if they would offer." We just offered! [​IMG] He also said he's a big fan of Charlie Strong.

    He caught 39 TD's last year as a junior setting a HS national record. This kid can play.

    The Link

    Godz40acres
    (100+ posts)
    02/13/15 02:43 PM
    Re: 2016 Recruiting is on.. (TX top-50 and our offers)

    As of 3PM 02/13/15 Per 247

    COMMITS

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    OFFERS

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    ViperHorn 5,000+ Posts

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    RainH2burntO 1,000+ Posts

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